TJThat would make for quite an interesting fleet of aircraft. How many planes can the Sao Paulo (or the Argentine carrier) carry exactly?
And why is the Pescador such a mystery missile?
No mystery. Think Bullpup. Radio command guidance. Joystick controlled.
The Argentine carrier went years ago. Scrapped in India.
TJ
TJSince electromagnetics waves are quickly attenuated in water, how do submarines communicate when underwater, furthermore, till which depth communication with external world is possible (a few millimeters or meters).
Those guys listen for broadcasts from both shore stations and aircraft. Only generally in an emergency will they break radio silence.
Radio amateurs intercept these signals on a regular basis.
Worldwide Utility News (WUN) is an electronic club for sharing news, information and loggings about Utility (non-broadcast) transmissions on the radio spectrum.
This is the WUN clubs guid to ELF-VLF:
http://www.wunclub.com/archive/files/ELF-VLF-GUIDE-v1.0.rtf
This website should give you all the info you need. The website creator is a Norwegian radio amateur who monitors Russian naval signals:
http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm
http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl60mil.html
“Russian/CIS military stations
Flash message copied on 18.1 kHz:
“XXX XXX RDL 66983 47202 KARATAL 3250 2051 K”
http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl47ms.html
“Our LF specialist, Trond, caught a number of flash messages on 18.1 kHz, 21.1 kHz, and 13852 kHz:
UUU XXX XXX M8H8 M8H8 WRNU WRNU SVQZ SVQZ 10193 KORKONT 8503 3052 K
XXX XXX RKS RKS 90250 WORSOWANIE 7967 8801 WERWEY 4647 4739 K
XXX XXX RDL RDL 02428 59742 OBSAD 5308 4731 K
UUU UUU XXX XXX RJD52 RJD52 59993 TARNOBOJKA 4712 7237 UUU XXX XXX RJD52 RJD52 59993 TARNOBOJKA 4712 7237 K”
The above intercepted messages are sent in Morse Code. The Russians are still big users of Morse. Cheap, efficient, well tried and tested. Those who have been seen images (or been inside) of Bears and Coots etc will notice the Morse Key. The Bear Js with their trailing wire antennas are also a very active part in the Russian communications structure.
TJ
TJHi,
I am looking for pics of F-105G Thunderchief based in the early 70’s in Thailand and flying SEAD missions over North Vietnam as well as informations regarding their load while performing those missions
Thank you
Go onto Google Groups. Type in Ed Rasimus and you’ll get an e-mail address for him. He normally posts on rec.aviation.military. Or why not post onto the group. It could do with an interesting discussion!
Ed was a Vietnam War USAF F-105 pilot.
Noted signature:
“Ed Rasimus
Member: Society of Wild Weasels
WW # 2488
–not a Weasel, but a “killer” for F-100F, F-105F, F-105G and F-4C
Weasels–
Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
***”When Thunder Rolled:
*** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam”
TJ
TJFlown by Israeli pilots. Kind of lease contract.
Flown by USN and USMC pilots. Part of the aggressor community.
TJ
TJLooks like an F-4 canopy part to me.
Are you thinking rear canopy? I inverted the image and compared it to images in a World Air Power Journal spread on F-4s. Wasn’t a Phantom downed in July 1982 over Lebanon?
TJ
TJRussian Air Force Plans Future Bomber
If it hasn’t been posted already:
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=563738&C=airwar
‘Russian Air Force Plans Future Bomber
By LYUBOV PRONINA, MOSCOW
The Russian Air Force’s Strategic Aviation branch is looking into 10 proposals for a new-generation strategic bomber to replace the Tu-160 aircraft, an Air Force commander said.
“At present, we have about 10 drafts under consideration,” Lt. Gen. Igor Khvorov, commander of the 37th Army of the Supreme High Command (Strategic) of the Russian Air Force, told reporters at a Dec. 20 briefing.
Khvorov would not go into details but said that a number of defense companies are working on the new bomber concept, including manufacturers of fighter jets.
“The decision has not been taken yet, but for cost efficiency reasons, we are leaning towards creating a new craft on the basis of the Tu-160,” he said. “Given current financing … we don’t see the need to create a principally new aircraft. What Tu-160 does today is only 60 percent of its [potential] capability.”
The long-range supersonic Tu-160, which first started flying in 1987, is the backbone of the Air Force’s strategic nuclear fleet. Khvorov said the craft is only about halfway through its life span.
Khvorov said an upgrade of the strategic aviation fleet, adopted in 2001 and including improved avionics and weapons, is proceeding as planned.
The existing 15 Tu-160s are to be supplemented by two more next year, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said in November.
Khvorov said that stealth will not be a priority in the Tu-160 replacement.
“Ideally, the future aircraft has to be developed with stealth technology, but it is a very expensive undertaking and involves complicated maintenance requirements to preserve stealth,” he said. “We are looking at it, in principle. However, such craft should not be mass produced; there should be an attack unit for specific tasks.”
Separately, Khvorov said that the strategic arm of the Air Force is sufficiently manned.
He said that this year, as many as 25 flight school graduates joined the ranks of replacements for outgoing pilots, preserving the number of air crews at the sufficient level.
Khvorov did lament poor financing, which has resulted in fuel shortages. He said the service’s strategic aviation crews, which normally fly up to 90 hours each year, now fly only 30 to 40 hours a year on average due to the shortages.’
TJ
TJOnly Diego Garcia-based websites i can find still running are the Navy meteo site at https://207.133.112.31/ (doesn’t mention anything), and a wireless company (at http://www.cwnetdg.io/ but nothing interesting there either).
Nothing on af.mil yet either.
Picked this up on a politcal forum:
‘Diego Garcia
My son
Posted on 12/27/2004 3:59:26 AM PST
They are all FINE on Diego Garcia, the quake wasn’t even felt. My son is stationed there and we recieved an email from him last night. This is also a small bit of information that may help us all understand why a tsunami most likely (never say never) could hit there.
Diego Garcia is at the top of the Chagos Trench located just to our east (hence the island chain name of Chagos Archipelago). This trench is very deep and the steepness of the grade from the trench to the top of the island does not allow tsunamis to build up before they were to come on shore.’
TJ
TJOh my God TJ you have 666 posts quick make another post to change that number before something bad happens to you!
LOL! It did cross my mind. I also drive a car with 666 in the number plate! I managed to get the dealer to knock a bit off the price as he couldn’t sell it due to the number plate.
TJ
TJok gentlemen, I’m back after a month or so away, lots of things kept me away from this forum, actually from the internet access level I used to have before, I had exams, a minor operation, three trips abroad among other things that kept me completely away from effectivly participating on this forum and limited my participation on ACIG.
I remember starting a discussion over here, I don’t know what happened to it as I have NOT read the thread yet but just wanted to announce my come back and readyness to finish what is not finished yet.
will come back later when I catch up with all what I missed here.
What happened to the promise of making public the three images of Israeli aircraft downed in 1982?
TJ
TJUFO Sightings over Iranian nuclear installations – Iranian Air Force orders shoot at sight but admits technical inability
Dec 26 2004 – Iranians complained about Unidentified Flying Objects at very low altitudes around its nuclear installations all around the country. United States has excellent satellite imagery and hence do not need low altitude spy planes to monitor the activities as the Iranian nuclear scientists and engineers as they assemble their nukes.
Sources in Iran say, the Iranian Air Force have admitted these sighting and assuming these are US spy crafts, directed Iranian Air Force to shoot them down at sight.
Sources also reveal that Iranian Air Force have failed shoot down even a single UFO and many in Iranian Air Force are complaining about lack of technical ability in shooting these UFOs down.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26a-04.asp
What’s everyone make of this?
The Iranians have a network of manned visual observation posts. They report what they see up the chain of command and that is more than likely where these reports originate from. People, especially at night, can be fooled by all sorts of phenomenon – planets especially. Add a pair of binoculars when dealing with lights in the night sky and all sorts of non-sense can get passed up the chain of command.
It could also be the simple case of elements within the Iranian Armed Forces being uncoordinated and violating flight restrictions over sensitive areas. I can imagine the Revolutionary Guard not accepting rules and regulations laid down by the air force. Civilian helos and aircraft could also be the culprits. There are also a fair number of oil company charter helos operating for the Iranian Gas and Oil companies – some of these are foreign operated under contract. The Iranian’s will probably end up shooting down one of their own due to their paranoia. I feel a tragic blue on blue accident on the cards.
Any amateur astronomers know what Planets have been particularly visible in the region?
TJ
TJPII, the link of the Army Scooter worked, thanks for that. And you’re right, the USAF operates two L-39s as chaseplanes from Edwards. Those are bought on the civil market, but they are definately military now.
The following Pucaras were eventually interned by the UK:
A-515 -> ZD485
A-533 -> ZD486
A-549 -> ZD487
A-522 -> 8768M
A-528 -> 8769M
A-517 -> G-BLRPThere also was a Puma captured (PA-12, to ZE449, to 9017M) and a Chinook (AE520) which shortly flew for the Brits.
Arthur,
I think I can add a bit to that:
Argentine Coast Guard SA.330L, serial PA-12, was abandoned near to Stanley. This airframe was rebuilt to HC.1 standard and entered service with the RAF during 2001, as Puma HC.1, serial ZE-449.
This Argentine Army CH-47C, serial AE-520, was captured close to the Governor’s residence in Stanley on 14 June 82 and returned to the UK on the 19th August 82. It was assigned a UK serial ZH257 and over the years has been in storage or in use as a ground instructional airframe. It was assigned the maintenance serial 9217M. The rear half of this Argentine Chinook was mated with the remains of a damaged RAF example, serial ZA704, and entered service in 2001. The front remains of AE-520 went back into storage or was scrapped.
TJ
TJSo how many Pucaras did UK capture?
The RAF and Army still operate captured Argentine aircraft to this day. The A-109s by Special Forces, half of a Chinook (mated with part of a crashed RAF example) and a Puma by the RAF. Captured Skyguard radars and their 35mm guns were also used to protect RAF Waddington. When they retired the 35mm guns the Skyguards passed to the RAF Police – used as covert height/speed traps in the UK.
TJ
TJSo how many Pucaras did UK capture?
Arthur posted in 2002: (Hope Arthur doesn’t mind?)
Should give others something to work on/update!
‘RE: Pucara wrecks
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The Pucaras in the UK should be the following, sightings via various spotters reports collected by an anonymous Argentine aircraft tracker at: http://www.geocities.com/aeromilitaria_ar/otras/preservados/intro_i.htm Last notes are a bit old in the tooth, but it gives a reasonable picture of the population.
A-515 Cosford Aerospace Museum, Cosford (U.K.) Jul 1998 Wore RAF serial ZD485 briefly.
A-517 (G-BLRP) Somewhere in Witney, Oxfordshire (U.K.) 1995 Last known owner Rod J. H. Butterfield. This one seems to be missing, perhaps the people at Flypast know more about this one.
A-522North East Air Museum (U.K.) May 1999 RAF maintenance number 8768M allocated, former FAA museum at Yeovilton.
A-528 Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation Museum, Flixton (U.K.) Nov 2000 Undergoing restoration.
A-533 DERA Boscombe Down Museum (U.K.) Apr 2002 Nose only.
A-549 Imperial War Museum (U.K.) Mar 2001 Falklands exhibit, hangar 3.’
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A-533 (nose) is now owned by Tony Dyer who posts on the AFM forums. He exhibits it at Cockpit Fests.
TJ
TJAny reported damage to Indian naval vessels from the tidal waves/earthquake?
TJ
TJI do not beleive any A.109 have been flown in RAF markings. Maybe by seeing a UK military roundel he simple assumed RAF?
You are also correct about them being intially in Royal Marines markings, I too have seen that image. I can’t remember the exact copy but in AFM in the last few years during a guide to all the UK military’s aircraft.
Finally found the the image of AE-331 in Royal Marine markings:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/609479/M/
TJ
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