David, The servicing requirements are likely to be less. If you take out all the redundant systems, as Damien said, then the requirement to service those systems goes away. So, no armaments, cabin press (maybe), some nav and radio kit may be removed (GPS stuff in its place), etc. I would assume that the aircraft will be serviced iaw the APs, which will give a servicing requirement based on both flying hours and calender time. I will guarantee that the aircraft will not rack up as many flying hours as an in-service aeroplane, and hence will be serviced more regularly per flying hour. Hence things like NDT inspections will be effectively done more frequently. It may be that the VTS may want to do NDT Checks more often, given tha nature of the airframe, but I can’t really comment on that, as I am not ‘in the know’
However, the aircraft is likely to be limited to something below its MAR limitations, and hence will not generate fatigue counts at the same rate as a jet flown to the full MAR limits.
As for displaying her at Duxford (or wherever) when she finally runs out of life, how many of the people who willsee her willknow that there is no operational armaments system or no 1960’s nav kit? Of the small percentage who do know, who will care? It is probably safe to assume that if she goes to Duxford she will be in better condition than the Vulcan there already, and hence a better bet for being kept in topline form. (although having seen what has happened to other aircraft that have flown in there, that may be too much to ask!)
I think the Swiss were pretty good at flash paint jobs – Papyrus, the tiger stripe jet, and best of all the Graffitti Hunter! If i can dig out a pic of the Graffitti hunter I’ll post it.
PS Come on TFC pull your finger out and get Princess Elizabeth in the air again!!!!
Isn’t that a steam engine!!?? 😀
The GR7 and AV8B have 250 pounds extra thrust than the SHAR and with that big wing, much improved lift. The steep “Farley” climb has always been a part of both Harriers display routine. The RAF displays are longer with more “conventional flight” passes- I wouldnt say that the SHAR is a better display at all, unless its a 2 ship!!
I can’t remember the exact figures for thrust of a Mk105 Pegasus as fitted to the GR7 compared to the 104/106 fitted to the SHAR, but the current RAF display is using the GR7A which has in the region of 2,000lb more thrust than the GR7. One thing the SHAR was doing at waddington that I had never seen before was an agressive aft stick manoeuvre from the hover (looked like a braking stop bow in reverse!). Very nice. And IMHO, the SHAR somehow always manages to make the Farley climb look a lot more impressive than the GR (although I have heard stories to the effect that they are both quite tame compared to the great man himself.
Also, since we had 2 Harriers, it was good to see one was a Sea Harrier. To the general public (including me quite frankly) one Harrier can do pretty much the same things as any other Harrier. Having them in different colours – RAF GR7 in grey and RN Sea Harrier in blue is the only thing that sets them apart.
But the SHAR display is better than the GR7 display!! Always has been!
What did anyone think of the Hunter display?
We have a new site layout this year which should please most people. Hope you like it?
From what I’ve heard it’ll be good for the public and the photogs, not so good for the line crew, although I’ll reserve judgement on that till I’ve seen the line in action.
By the way, Glen, have you heard, VETA has finally airtested!! So an she be included in the flypro now, please??
Dees
Hawker Hunter T7 WV372 (cue fast jet stylie big cheesy grin!!)
Jet Provost G-BWEB
and with a bit of luck may sometime soon get a shot in G-VETA
MOTF, Miss D has been assessed and the damage is not as bad as first feared. New jetpipe, tailcone and a temporary repair to enable her to transit back to Kemble, followed by re-skinnning of the rear fuse should see her back in the air fairly soon. One caveat, all of the above subject to NDT inspection of the airframe.
Has anyone got any pictures of Miss Demeanour after she landed at Southend?
Cheers in advance
Let’s see if I can make this picture attachment thingy work
Kodak, you are correct the aircraft in question is an F58, if I can figure it out I’ll post a picture. The story I had heard was that the squadron had permission to paint the aircraft for 24 hours after which it had to revert to normal colours. Seems like a shed load of work for 1 day. I think the jet did 2 flights in the scheme.
I rather like the idea of having a really lairy jet to compete with Jonathon’s. something along the lines of the graffitti Hunter would be cracking. (there’s enough Hunters painted in boring camo colours to keep the purists happy!)
So if we painted VETA in the same tiger scheme as was applied to one of the Swiss air force machines (J-4030?), would that count?
It does’nt count as a representative ex Swiss Air force machine painted in a civvy blue scheme – ditto G-VETA IMHO – Tiger scheme!!??? aaaarrghh no!!
Would the Swiss graffitti hunter count as a representative machine?
Pull your finger out then Dunc!!!!!!
Not my fault guv!If I’d had my way, she’d have flown in August last year!! And I think she should go into an all-over tiger scheme, not 4FTS!
XL600 (G-VETA),
chance’d be a fine thing! Bet she’ll still be in the static park, awaiting a bloomin’ airtest!!!!
Duncan