Guys, stop it!
Any airplane is a compromise. If you say, “the more AAMs the better” that is you say “the less fuel the better”. So, designers (or more exactly, military people who prepare requirements for designers) have to specify some most typical task, for example, to deliver 6 missiles to 1,000 miles.
I do not know, how many K-77M missiles the PAK FA’s bay is able to fit (it is easy with larger ones — two pieces). My guess is that only two K-77Ms may be carried inside the bay or, less possible, three. Any way, this gives us 4-6 medium range missiles and two short-range ones.
BTW, typical weapons load for MiG 1.42 (larger than the PAK FA) was four K-77Ms plus four short-range missiles.
PS – Can anyone make out the name ?? – Vitaly Koplov ????
PPS – I just answered my own question – it’s the director of KAPO – Vitaliya Kop’lova….
No, it’s not. The photo shows Valentin Bliznyuk, chief designer of Tu-160.
And “Vitaliy Kopylov” is the name of this most recent Tu-160, bort ’08’ (as seen in the background).
from what I know as of 1999 there were 20-30 SMT’s: http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita…/mig-29smt.htm
You said that before already. If your only argument is a link to GlobSec website, that is you have no arguments.
First obvious fact: no one tactical aircraft in Russia may go to the line unit without evaluation and pilots’ conversion in Lipetsk centre.
Second obvious fact: many of us were in Lipetsk and no one of us saw there MiG-29SMT.
Third obvious fact: when upgraded Su-27SM, Su-24M2, Su-25SM or new Su-34 arrived to Lipetsk, all Russian TV and press made reports from there. There is no one report on MiG-29SMT arriving Lipetsk.
Fourth obvious fact: when first serially converted Su-27SM arrived 23rd IAP in Dzemgi and first Su-24M2 arrived 302nd BAP in Pereyaslavka, this fact was widely propagated by Russian TV and press. And again, no one such report on MiG-29SMT arriving elsewhere.
Russia has 20-30 MiG-29 SMT’s as of 1999 ….
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…we can credit the Russian federation with now having about 100 or so Mig-29 SMTs.
If so, please be so kind and let me know, where they are? There is no one MiG-29SMT in Akhtubinsk and Lipetsk test and conversion centres, no one in 14th IAP in Kursk, no one in 19th IAP in Millerovo, no one in 28th IAP in Andreapol, no one in 31st IAP in Zernograd, no one in 120th IAP in Domna, no one in 237th TsPAT in Kubinka. Maybe you know some secret place nobody else knows?
Poland: all Polish MiG-29s (including ex-G) are well counted and no one was sold to (left in) the US or elsewhere.
USA: US couldn’t have any MiG-29SM because these are prototypes only.
MiG-29S. Do not mistake MiG-29S and 9-13 Fulcrum-C — this is not the same. MiG-29S is izdeliye 9-13S, externally like 9-13 (fatback) but with N019M radar and some other improvements. Several dozen were made in very early 1990s and delivered to Russian AF (sixteen); others later converted into export SD, SE and SMT versions.
MiG-29SMT: bought by Yemen (a dozen or so) and Erithrea (a few). Ordered by Algeria, 15 delivered since December 2006 but now are to be returned to Russia. And these will be first SMTs passed over to Russian AF. Syria ordered upgrade to SMT standard; no information on status of the order.
Russia: Russian AF has now only basic MiG-29 (9-12 and 9-13) plus a dozen MiG-29S (9-13S) fighters. AF wants to upgrade its MiG-29s to SM version only (not SMT).
BTW, Belarus has (at least four) MiG-29BM upgrades which are similar to SM.
Peace, peace, peace!
Let’s back to the F-16. Poland chose F-16 over Gripen because it better suits Polish requirements which were, by the way, much higher than these issued by Czech Republic and Hungary. These countries requested an air-defence fighter to operate over their own territory. Poland has 32 MiG-29 for this purpose. New fighter was to be able to operate outside Poland in air-to-ground missions mainly.
Poland requested a wide range of air-to-ground weapons, NATO datalinks, navigation, EW, reconnaissance etc. suites. We bought 22 AN/AAQ-33 Pantera targeting pods, AN/ALQ-212(v)4 EW suites for 20 aircraft, seven Goodrich DB-110 reconnaissance pods and a large (still classified, so no details) number of AIM-120C-5 and AIM-9X AAMs, AGM-154C JSOW, JDAM, AGM-65G2 Maverick, GBU-12 Paveway II and GBU-24 Paveway III munitions. Is all this tested and available with the Gripen?
And don’t say us about Polish politicians – we have more troubles with them here inside than you outside Poland. Elections in a month…:)
is radar data and signal processor units on actual Zhuk-AE/FGA-29 the same that those on Zhuk-ME?
I don’t know (IDNK) but I guess so (IGS)
Would they be changed?
IGS
why not to use the new Solo-35 based solutions?
IDNK
what’s the name of the RDP and Signal Processor of Zhuk-ME anyway
RDP: 386-6
SP: Baget-55-04
the 1088 module zhuk at MAKS wasnt a mockup, it was “functional” but with a bad computer and they flew it.
… but no one at MiG or Phazotron knows that:)
The MiG has a good bit more than 575mm worth of room in its nose, they plan on increasing the size of the antenna, the prototype antenna is smaller because there simply isnt enough processing power for more modules. The Zhuk-Meh has a 625mm antenna I believe and there is still a bit of room left after that. They arent utilizing at least 50mm that are clearly available to them. The older Zhuk-M was actually a 700mm design I believe, so they might have a good 125mm they arent playing with.
That would be true if… the antenna mirror of Zhuk-ME and Zhuk-AE is in the same place. In fact, Zhuk-AE radar had to be moved ahead for some reason :diablo:
they’ve already built and flown a 1000+ module antenna
They built only a mockup of 1,088 module antenna.
they moved back down to 690 modules
680 modules (170 packs, four modules each)
they moved back down to 690 modules isnt because they couldnt fit more modules, but because they dont have the processing power in the computer to handle 1000 modules
They moved back down to 680 modules because only 575-mm diameter antenna fits the nose. In the next step, when new technology intruduced, they plan to reduce size of the radar’s “black boxes”, move antenna backwards and increase both diameter (to 700 mm) and modules’ number (to 1,000-1,100).
whats the difference between Sura-M and Sura-K ?
I would like to know, too.
MAW300 installation? Does it really cover 360degree in azimuth and elevation? I think there will be a small blind zone for the sensors directly in front of the aircraft.
Yes, it is. The question is, is this zone important.
Moreover, the same antenna is being fitted to Su-27SM (not export SKM), so it has to be Russian system.
No material I know mentions, what type of RWR it is but I guess it is L150 Pastel. Saab Avitronics presented systems for the MKM last year and enlisted then only MAW300, LWS310 and EW controller (EWC).
Probably, output from those systems is presented on one of three MFD screens installed in the cockpit.
Agree.
Su-30MKM has six sensors of the MAW300 ultraviolet missile approach system in two groups of three “windows” each, one ahead of front leg (to cover lower hemisphere) and another one on the fuselage back (upper hemisphere).
Laser warning LWS310 system has four sensors: two front-looking ones at the wing roots below the edge and two rear looking ones at the engine intakes’ sides.
Why the “hatches” are covered with metal plates? I may only guess that no real systems are fitted yet.
As I know, jammer is from Russia, but no idea of the model.
In several news items the Russians have mentioned that the Su-34 is not available for export.
So why it was shown in Farnborough in 2000, if I remember correctly? Every Russian tactical aircraft is being offered for export in some (downgraded) version. Su-32 is the export version of the Su-34.
Sukhoi mentions in its documents the I-21E, an export version of the I-21 or PAK FA.