The engines are For Sale, and shipping to the UK will be something I can take care of, doing the legwork and all, but the buyer will have to pay the trucking. I recommend shipping by truck to port of Oakland, then container, or pallet in a container to a UK port. I would like $2,500 USD each, but am open to offers.
For now only the Swordfish propeller is available. The rest of the propellers, blades and hubs need to be correctly identified before they are assigned to storage, or sale. It is certain that the oddities will be sold off, such as this one, good raw material for the industry may be kept or sold later. The propeller blades are valuable, and generally seem in good condition. They will not sell for scrap value. The swordfish propeller is not corroded, has only surface scratches, and would make a tremendous static or perhaps spare blades for a flyer. I will put it on my wall, as art!, should it not find a buyer. I have never seen one before, and know the buyer will not likely see another one. It’s not worth a ton of money, but its worth more than a few Spitfire spade grips I think. If this sells we will get into the American stuff….
FP478 colliding with a Blackburn Shark, another rare aircraft! Well that had to be in the Trinidad area, the Goose with 749 Squadron, andf the Shark perhaps 750 or 755 squadron?
FP492 lost on 2.9.42, circumstances unknown…but all lost.
Seems that the training school area set aside in Trinidad was on a greater war footing than expected as the shipping and U-boat traffic in the area became busy in 1942…Havent found any ohter real infomation other than 749 Squadron, then a few to 24 Squadron as VIP aircraft at Hendon, perhaps a few operated in that Squadron by ATA pilots on ferry duty, returning crews? Little information on these planes…
Portugese use has been further understood that several “Flying Boat” G-21’s were used in Macau until 1960? or so with the 3rd Regiao Aerea, as well as the Azores …however all I have found today is one small picture…neat in retrospect, as I had not seen this one before…
http://aerodino.no.sapo.pt/g-21.html
and then I found this….believed to be ex NX 107…can anyone ID the other stuff in the scrapyard…date unknown!!!
http://forum.modelismo-na.net/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=13933&start=60
Serials Needed to attach final crash sites or wrecked locations to…I believe these are the 11 that failed to return to the USA postwar…corrections?
FP477 became BW780 (what date?)
FP478 – BW781
FP481 – BW784
FP485 – BW788
FP492 – BW795
FP504 – BW807
FP505 – BW808
FP506 – BW809
FP513 – BW816
FP519 – BW822
FP524 – BW827
Also working on the French Aeronavale use of the JRF Goose in Indochina, very interesting…
Anson Gear Legs, and a low starting price….
First off…love the forums and this thread particularly. Anyone with more shots of Canadian T-33’s scrapping at Scottish Aviation should post them…or Sabres..!
These were taken on Monday in San Antonio Texas, and while not a scrapyard per se, this is a salvage yard for parts sales. I was there to purchase odds and ends and bits for future hoped for projects…Alas the yard was sold about 20 minutes after we arrived and we were ushered out under guard. The purchaser is a DC-3 rebuilder…what they do not take will go for scrap…I will be watching and waiting.
Walking in, we builders survey the gold and bits of other precious metals..I scramble for a camera…Supers looking in the corner!

Forlorn and almost forgotten, a very pretty Beechcraft, once a businessmans’s dream lies wrecked and parted in the apex of brakes and wheels to the right and flaps to the left. This was N700M BA-54 an E-18 that was wrecked to the day 8 Mar 82…2 fatalities, but circumstances unknown.

A pair of C-117′ or R4D-8’s? unknown identities..
another fragment N42…?


There are no TA-4’s for sale, nor will any ever be offered to the public in even semi complete form. The TA-4’s operated overseas may be possibly released at some point, but that would be based on the way the country aqquired the plane. Any military assistance package aircraft would be returned to the USA or scrapped on site.
There are 3 or 4 true “civil” TA-4 aircraft.
There is N250WL, 251WL and 252WL, ex Israel TA-4’s operated on military contracts by ATSI…they will not be available to purchase…and really don’t count…
SO then.
One owned by Collings FOundation, it is a direct transfer to a civilian operator with a huge amount of paperwork and restrictions. It does however fly and offer rides to the public. It will not ever be offered for sale.
http://www.collingsfoundation.org/Houston/tx_ta-4skyhawk_hist.htm
The second is the built N518TA. It can be duplicated, but someone would have to pay for that. This was built to enjoy, but eventually sell. It can be sold to anyone and is a completely NEW aircraft. It is truly at this time one of a kind.
The third is offered here….needs a crew and a few years. Just add money.
http://www.raptoraviation.com/aircraft%20spec%20pages%20old/TA4%20Shep.html
There is a fourth I have heard, but they probably will not get it to fly either…
EVERYTHING WORKS.
Possible problems in the UK would be runway length and airspace…here in the USA its still possible to work with ATC when your plane climbs at 25,000fpm and you don’t want to wait to climb…..
We have had a few talks regarding the F-8….but would be interested in figuring out if it was possible to make the plane a bit bigger….we have a few noses and ideas…but need a backer with a similar dream….is it the ultimate in jet battlebird cool (besides an F-105F/G?)


I would offer a dissenting view on private collections versus the “state” or established collections that are held in high regard. I remember Ken Ellis’s article when it was published in Flypast, and at the time I was about 12 and could not at the time conscience the scrapping of redundant aircraft for any reason. Over time my view has been strengthed by working for 30 years off and on with vintage aircraft.
Private collecting is and has been the foundation of the vintage aircraft preservation movement. Without it there would not be large museums maintained by the USAF, USN and to an extent, every other air arm in the world. Planes of Fame collection and Yanks Air Museum, both of Chino California have in seperate and different ways managed to preserve and maintain a vast number of planes before it was popular, Yanks having an antique collection that is simply awesome. While the RAF or USAF museums are “good” they tell a very small part of the aviation story, and while “Warbirds” are brilliant airshow aircraft…the Travel Air 4000, Beech Staggerwing, Short C Class and a host of other civilian types fall outside and lack “relevance”. Many of the civilian collectors, Greg Herrick among them, preserve historical planes that docents at our national museums cannot even identify. Aviation history is for the enthusiasts to write, not the paid civil servants that “like” what they do. Its for those that stay up till 3am on the computer perfecting databases, researching photographs and building collections of literature just as much as it belongs to the owners of individual vintage craft that expound their virtues to anyone who will listen, as well as to their wife who listens anyway. I say again, private collections and their pattern of collecting has driven the shape and way the major collections of the world collect.
The Caravelle was scrapped at the NEAM last month (irrelevant aircraft) , and several other large aircraft succumb every year worldwide by the museums tasked to protect them. The hard work of aircraft preservation is not the cherishing of a Spitfire XIV that everyone knows is stunning and exciting, but the preservation and conservation of the pedestrian “hens teeth” large airframes that wage a daily war against corrosion and the bottom line. In the USA, our B-47’s, B-52’s and other large aircraft are maintained outside. While it isn’t the UK, many will not survive the next 40 years or so. NEAM seems to be shifting to a military based collection, finding the warbird story more riveting than the essential nature of mass transport…
It seems to me that only the dedicated action of “civilians” can adopt and maintain the state of large preserved aircraft. Civilians also maintain the many “unremarkable” but essential types that should be allowed to fly versus hang from rafters on cables…Who does a better job of displaying a Puss Moth, the owner who lavishes his own personal airplane with care, or a national museum…? I am inspired by the Vulcan to the SKy movement as examples of what we can be at our best! In my own time now I have my historic plane, and I spend my money on it without much thought for my future in some cases. I will own it for a while, and hopefully someone down the road sees in her what I do, and puts their own name on it. Its not rare or super exotic. But it certainly shows the form, technical accountability and perfection acheived by her designers. And she is my muse because of it…
Regarding the projects that are about the hangar….F-8 is currently a static with a fully restored forward section, the rest being in “as surplused” condition. This F-8 is not a candidate for a flying restoration as there is minimal interest in a single seat aircraft of this complexity….The A-4 store is open, and hopefully buyers can be found to build/buy further airframes. There are parts for only 3 more, so they are very limited run. Remember no USN TA-4F or J airframes will be sold, and the ones that are out there are proving prohibitively difficult to reach flight status. This one is a completely new airplane in many ways, and is so much better than the repainted vintage aircraft, similar to the level of improvement that HFL did with the Spitfire restoration movement. There are many single seat A-4’s available, but little interest in them from US buyers. The engines for all of the vintage jet planes are becoming rare, so when you can save them from the scrappers!
Serial list here of the raw material….
from this…

to this…

to this!

Flies better! This one is not really a “rebuilt” military jet in the traditional sense. Jets seem to be much more of “come as you are” “restorations” rather than the classic WWII variety warbird. Most jets that resume civil flying are upon aquisition good basic aircraft in their own right. A lengthy reservicing and inspection of components with in most cases outright replacement of time limited or unsatisfactory parts. This jet however was made from a combination of parts that were all broken to the simplest components, and then built from the ground up. It is in effect a new aircraft, and perhaps is one of the first of her kind, a restored basket case Vietnam era aircraft. Mike’s previous work was restoring an FG-1 Corsair…he said this was a lot harder to do, but is easier to maintain…!


