How about representing our favourite allies the yanks. Could get my fav transport in a C5 Galaxy. Sure it wouldnt take up to much room.
Remeber been at Mildenhall for one of the very last shows (cant rem the year) and the heavens well and truly opened up. It seemed the entire audience was crammed into the open hold. Craking experience and a lot of good natured banter between everyone including the crew. And we kept dry.
For those who are not really aware of the history of our museums unique P111a thought this maybe of use.
She first flew on 6th October 1951 with Squadron Leader R H Smythe at the controls. Flying from Boscombe down the aircraft had been transported by road from the Boulton Paul factory. The aircraft was designed esentially to test the theory and benefit of delta flight. Remember following the end of WW2 the Allies found themselves in possesion of a lot of german research data. The delta theory been one area they had researched in great depth.
When the VT935 first flew as RobMac states she was wearing an overall silver colour scheme. The national maarkings were pretty much as you see them now with a black anti glare panel around the cockpit but with the yellow national prototype markings (ie the yellow P in a circle) each side of the nose forward of the roundal. The black fuselage cheatlines you see today had not been painted at this point. Interestingly which nobody has mentioned so far is that when the aircraft first flew the wingspan was a lot smaller. The aircraft was designed with detachable wingtips to further explore delta theory. There would eventually be three differant wing tips fitted that gave the aircraft a span of either 25ft 8inch ,29ft 8inch or 33ft 6inch.
In 1951 the aircraft appeared at the SBAC displey ina slightly modified scheme. Whilst still silver the P markings had been removed and a dark blue fuselage flash incorporating the black anit glare panel had been applied. The blue flash was rather dramatic being and flowed nicely under the cockpit continuing along the fuselage sides above the wing finishing approx in thee position of the trailing edge.
In 1953 the P111 was converted into the P111a. Here it received the bright yellow colour scheme along with the black flash that you see in Robs wonderful pics (no im not takin the mickey matey). The modification to P111a status also included the addition of some fuselage airbrakes and a rather long nose probe.
Hope this is of use to you all.
shes is presently residing at Amjet Aircraft Corporation (N994WM, ex G-SEAH, for sale), Polar Aviation Museum, Anoka County airport, Minnesota, USA
Why not expand Cosford with a dedicated hall. Look at the aircraft types youve mentioned in the original thread. They have these aircraft there already, bear in mind some are not on display at the present but in hangers elsewhere on the base.
DC3 Dakota
York
Hastings
Belfast
Britannia Kemble
AW Argosy USA (a)
Devon
Pembroke
Pioneer
Twin Pioneer
Anson C19
Sycamore
Then add the other types on the list which the RAF have in service (about to be retired), gate guards or training airframes around the country maybe its a museum that is feasible. And for those that mocked the idea with mentions of aint gonna work no Spitfire. Well Cosford,s already got one so that problem is covered.
Suddenly doesnt look such a hard project if only from an airframe point of view.
Cracking idea Phillip maybe some one is listen and will get it kicked off one day certainly deserves to.
Now your just been silly.
Firestreaks on the wingtips? lovely.
by the way mate if you need a camera let me know, can loan you a digi one if that helps at all?
oh yes very he he he
Dont worry about the pic quality Rob. Its the person thats behnd the camera that makes the picture. Thats what I keep telling myself anyway.
Dont you think the roundals would look nicer in the pastel shades with pale blue cheatline and serial ala white anti flash Vulcans?
How about this site?
If we are talking accurate P-38 nose art rather than my own fanciful designs I would have to go with The Fighter Collections P-38 California Cutie.
Stunning nose art and a stunning colour scheme. Although Ive read sources that state they got the colour of the ladies dress wrong and 1/48th Aeromaster decal sheets appear to back this thought up.
But hey who cares it was a flying 38 that looked fantastic.
Hi Roger,
Id assumed that it was maybe somethin to do with the preservation of the airframe. Although saying that it does make you wonder the effectivness of such a stipulation especially considering that they have already allowed the aircraft to be displayed in the open exposed to salt air.
Paper pushers once more getting involved in aircraft preservation it seems.
Nice to hear back from a local person.
Thanks for the reply
Maybe this isnt the right time to mention such a thing but many dedicated pilots have lost their lives whilst displaying at air display/events or shows.
We remember the lost wartime aircrews (and very rightly so). Maybe its time we remember those pilots who have lost their lives displaying aircraft for our benefit.
Would it not be apt to have a memorial possibly at Duxford in memory of those who have lost their lives in this unfortunate manner. As many have pointed out in this thread yes its sad to lose an aircraft but even more so its aircrew.
I live in Coventry and in 1988 and in 1988 Flt Lt Peter Stacey lost his life whilst steering the RAF Meteor T7 he was displaying away from the local housing estate. His actions no dount saved many lives. As a tribute to that act a small but poignant reminder was erected to remember his actions by. I believe that we should be thinking of doing something to remember those who give up their weekends to entertain us.
ON a happier note thank god that the T-33 crew escaped with their lives. Best wishes to them both.
Sorry bowt my spelling chaps. Is early and sent before I checked. Coventry education for you. What can I say.
Geoff Coughlan did a conversion of the 1/48 Arii/Airfix MKVIII a fewf years agon in the Tamiya Modelling Magazine. from what I rem he didnt move the cockpit forward any and the resulting model didnt seem to suffer to much for it. If you wanna be daft thought and have the space check this plan out for a TR9