really pinko has bought in your religion in every thread???

I don’t think Su-30 was really an option. It had to be F-16 or gripen. I would expect the new dictatorial govt to be more “pro-west”.:)

I thought RN selected the excocet because it was more suited for coastal operations (littoral warfare) than sea eagle which was meant for operation in oceans away from land.

Since Jag IM’s are not going to be the ones bombing PN assets on land i don’t see why they need excocet. Upgrading the sea eagle hopefully with better guidance and LPI radar (from brahmos?) would seem a better option.would

IAF will scream bloody murder if the Maritime strike a/c are handed over to IN . I think IN needs to have 5-6 squardons of fighters (Mig 29K and N-LCA) which can perform the same role.

There are videos of Indian IL-38 firing Kh-35. I believe harry or someone posted one in BR a while back.

LOL the 16 dead PN sailors must not count for much . PAF can be wiped out in less than 2 days if IAF decides to after them. What exaqctly does the pathetic airforce posses? Obsolete scrapyard mirage-3/5 and chinese junk J-7?

Greenday enough proof and transcripts of discussions in US senate have been provided. I would think they now more than kasuri?? whoever this joker is. Yes by neutered I meant the non flexible EW suites. Only time will tell what PAF would finally get. But I am not holding my breath.

Just few simple questions.
First of all the same US senate was told that Pak would be getting $3 billion dollar in aid with $1.5 of it going to military. Im sure u know that most of that money has already been spent, which means that a huge chunk of this $5.1 billion for F-16 package would be coming from Pakistan’s own pocket. Agreed?

If so, why would PAF purchase these so called ‘neutered’ machines when they have other options available? France has already approved Marlin sale to PN. With Indian decision to disregard M2K-5 for MRCA competition, Rafale has a close to nothing chance of winning this contract. Under these circumstances, dont you think France would be more than willing to sell M2K-5/Rafale and with considerable teeth to PAF if the latter wanted it? Lets even forget France for an instant. All indications are that FC-1 will be coming to Pakistan in near future and that J-10 discussions are already underway. Why would Pakistan prefer ‘neutered’ F-16 instead of spending all that money on one of these chinese machines. They would undoubtedly be much better than those ‘neutered’ F-16s, wont have any risk of sanction, and would come with various other advantages. Wouldn’t u agree?

I would certainly be waiting for a logical response.

Vikas I am not sure if PAF is buying these F-16’s. These could be payment for letting US us Air bases in pakistan. Pakistan will not go for M2k-5 since India operates the kind and all Indian mirages will be upgraded to -5 standards. Rafale is not within pakistans reach. It is simply too costly for PAF. I see F-16’s as technologically superior to J-10 or FC-1. These chinese aircrafts will no doubt make up the bulk of the PAF fleet, but they would certainly love to have a high performance jet like F-16 blk 52. Like greenday mentioned these F-16’s (neutered) would still be a potent asset in a defensive scenario. The neutering is unkils idea and not indian. Its o nly because they are worried about what might reach china and not if it benefits India.