Dude get a pair of glasses. I said they will take out PN’s surface fleet. Never said anything about 1 on 1 sub fight. Yes PN will get 6 new subs unfortunately for them IN also is looking for newer design as per their 2 sub lines requirement. I am banking on german Type 214 or Amur 1650.

PN is not spending $970 million on the P-3c’s. US is donating the P-3c’s (refurbished ones). PN did not set the price US did, I cannot imagine how a P-3c would in any case cost $120 million??????? Unless they come equipped with death star system thats an over inflated price. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/p-3.htm. Put the price in 1987 as 36 million even with inflation it cannot be more than 50-60 million per plane with all the gizmos.
In the last papa you are basically stating what I have been saying all along. PN will be restricted to the pakistan coast except the subs, while In would only venture there with Il-38, P-8’s (in future) and mig-29k and Su-30 MKI escorts.

The scorpene is superior to agosta 90b in sensor suite and technology. I have never claimed agosta 90b is inferior to kilos. If you go back and read I said that 3 subs is not a good enough deterrant since IN will not engage in 1 on 1 sub battle.

The latest P-3c or refurbished once? I was under the impression these are just upgraded ones not brand new. They are similar to the Il-38 with sea dragon. PN MPA have no protection and would be taken out in the first wave. Its much more difficult to take out a sub that a lumbering P-3c. Atlantique anyone?

LOL yes, try the chinese subs for the loudest one contest….
The 3 agostas are minimal threat and IN can swat them like flies. Period.

If sub hunting was as easy as you claim. there would be no subs in any navy.

Who is talking of subs? I thought the arguement was over MPA’s. In sub pakistan has 3 good subs but India has 7-8 upgraded kilos and 3-4 Type-209 (I wish I knew the status of upgrade pgm). No comparision. IN will be stupid to engage in 1-on-1 sub versus sub fight. They will play to their advantage.

That would be when the last of this MRCA plane is given to IAF.

Nick if you are refering to P-28 then the order is for four not three.

Woahhhh I seem to have stepped on some toes:). Since I diverted the thread I guess I should answer.

PN sub fleet is currently 3 agosta 90B
2 Agosta 70 (will be retired when new subs come)
The 4 daphnes were retired.
Some mini subs not sure of number. 3 is my guess.

So if the new 6 subs come 9 modern subs. Not bad by any standards. IN would need atleast 16-18 new subs to counter these and ccover the rest of the indian coast. So I guess its time to order more subs since Kilos retire from 2016 on.