toanFighter: EF-2000／F-2A/B
- Weight: 23,500 kg／22,100 kg（MTOW）
- Weight: 17,500 kg／14,677 kg（100% internal fuel + 1,350 kg A2A payload）
[*]Internal fuel: 5,000 kg／3,800 kg
[*]Weapon load: 7,500 kg／8,085 kg
[*]Combat radius: unknown／450 nm（Anti-ship）
[*]Ferry range: 3,700 km／4,000 km
T/W ratio, MTOW:
* EF-2K: 0.782／0.521（A/B／Max. Mil）
* F-2A: 0.605／0.349（A/B／Max. Mil）
T/W ratio, A2A configuration mentioned above:
* EF-2K: 1.050／0.700（A/B／Max. Mil）
* F-2A: 0.912／0.525（A/B／Max. Mil）
Wing load, MTOW:
* EF-2K: 458.98 kg/m2
* F-2A: 634.33 kg/m2
Wing load, A2A configuration mentioned above:
* EF-2K: 341.80 kg/m2
* F-2A: 421.27 kg/m2
Fuel Fraction
* EF-2K: 0.310
* F-2A: 0.285
toantoanGiven one of Mr Camerons soundbites was ‘do we need quite as many fast jets in a post cold war world?’ i’m guessing that’s right and the RAF will have to make do with a future post 2020 of 107 Typhoon, 50 F-35C & Reaper/Taranis
Let UK government face the music and problems of 2015 ~ 2020 at first. If RAF is really foreced to say good-bye to all of its Torando GR4 and Tranche 1 before 2015, then RAF will have to use no more than 107 Typhoons (including the reserved fighters) to do all of its manned fighters’ missions and jobs at that time.
toanFighter: EF-2000／F-2A/B
[*]Internal fuel: 5,000 kg／3,800 kg
[*]Weapon load: 7,500 kg／8,085 kg
[*]Combat radius: unknown／450 nm（Anti-ship）
[*]Ferry range: 3,700 km／4,000 km
toanBut this should mean the acquisition of EF2k T3B, right?…….
No, I think this should mean that RAF may have no more than 107 manned fighters (67 T2 + 40 T3A) at the period of 2015 to 2020 ~ if they are not further reduced by the crash accident or the foreign procurement……
toanWell,
1. RAF now may have to retire the whole Tornado GR4 fleet before 2014.
2. The previous news said that RAF prepares to get rid of all its own Tranche I Eurofighter within 5 years, and the the F-35C won’t be able to begin entering RAF’s service until 2020.
3. And it is said some countries like Oman want to buy some T2/T3A Typhoons from RAF……..
I really wonder how many manned fighters will RAF be able to keep at the period of 2015~2020……:D
toanThere are always good reasons to get more thrust :
And the best one reason should be your opponents in export market may get the similar, or even the better thrust / energy performance that you have today in the near future, such as:
1. PAK-FA/T-50 after 2018~2020.
2. J-20 + 155~180 KN engine*2 after 2020~2025.
3. Rafale + uprated M88 after 2015.
4. F/A-18E/F + F414 EPE after 2017.
5. Gripen NG + F414 EPE after 2017.
toanIts most probably Isreali marketing… displayed some set and mentioned some other.
An LCA sized radar to have something like 1500 t/r modules is unbelievable. Israel is still behind the US in t/r module capablity, isn’t it?Any correction or addition on the above will be welcomed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2052
Elta 2052 is not a single fighter’s radar, but a serial fighter’s radar family.
The members from this family can be big enough for replacing the old mechanical radars of early F-15 and Su-27, or can be small enough to be the new radar for LCA Tejas. And I think it is very unlikely that the T/R numbers of Elta 2052 for F-15 or Su-27 would be the same as the T/R numbers of Elta 2052 for LCA Tejas.
toanDATE:09/02/11
SOURCE:Flight Daily News
AERO INDIA: Eurofighter reveals offer to produce navalised Typhoon
By Craig Hoyle
The Eurofighter consortium is offering India the opportunity to acquire a new version of its Typhoon for use from a future indigenous aircraft carrier, with the first firm details of the proposal having emerged at the show.
Being shown in model form for the first time this week, the European type would receive several new features to support its proposed life at sea. These include a new, stronger landing gear, a modified arrestor hook and thrust-vectoring control nozzles for its two Eurojet EJ200 turbofan engines. The latter would enable the fighter to approach the vessel at a reduced speed without restricting pilot vision by requiring an increased angle of attack.
Eurofighter says only localised strengthening would be required on some fuselage sections near the landing gear, and to the EJ200. Conformal fuel tanks could also be integrated with the airframe to extend the strike aircraft’s range.
Video footage being shown in the Eurofighter and BAE exhibit areas includes recent simulation-based imagery of tests made using adapted flight control software and new engine modelling. Sporting Indian navy markings, the navalised Typhoon is depicted taking off from a deck space similar to that aboard the ex-Russian navy aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, which is now being modified for Indian use.
Also of interest for Indian applications is a new weapons option being displayed for the first time with a full-scale model of the Typhoon. Working in conjunction with Saab and Diehl, Eurofighter is offering the RBS15 anti-ship missile as a future payload for the multi-role fighter.
The company is also showcasing technologies including an active electronically scanned array radar offered for the Typhoon, and providing demonstrations with a BAE-developed smart helmet display system for the type.
toanWell, if Brazilian AF still can’t get its deal of F-X fighter done after 10 years of effort, do you really believe that Brazilian Navy will be able to get its projects of new aircraft carrier and fighter done within less than 3 years ?
toanWith Own 5G Jet Plan, India ‘Rejects’ US Offer
(Source: Times of India; published Jan. 29, 2011)
NEW DELHI — India has no plans as of now to either join the US-led joint strike fighter (JSF) programme or buy the F-35 `Lightning-II’ fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) when it finally becomes operational.
“We cannot have two types of FGFA. We have already launched preliminary work for our FGFA after inking the $295 million preliminary design contract (PDC) with Russia last month,” said a top defence ministry official on Friday.
This comes in the wake of comments made by a top Pentagon official, undersecretary of defence for acquisition, technology and logistics Ashton Carter, in Washington that the US was open to Indian participation in its JSF project.
Interestingly, the comments came during a function where an aggressive sales pitch was made for India to select either the American F/A-18 `Super Hornet’ (Boeing) or F-16 ‘Falcon’ (Lockheed Martin) over their European rivals in the ongoing IAF’s medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) contest.
The other 4.5-generation fighters in the hotly-contested race to bag the $10.4 billion MMRCA project, under which 18 jets will be bought off-the-shelf and another 108 will be manufactured in India under transfer of technology, are Eurofighter Typhoon, Swedish Gripen (Saab), French Rafale (Dassault) and Russian MiG-35 (United Aircraft Corporation).
The IAF force matrix for the coming years revolves around the 270 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia for around $12 billion, the 126 MMRCA and 120 indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, apart from upgraded MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s.
In the decades ahead, the advanced stealth FGFA to be developed with Russia will be the mainstay of India’s combat fleet. “Our FGFA will be cheaper than the F-35. Moreover, the intellectual property rights of the FGFA will equally and jointly vest on both India and Russia, with full access to the source code and the like,” said another senior official.
With a potent mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, the “swing-role” FGFA will of course not come cheap. The cost of designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development and flight testing has been pegged at around $11 billion, with India and Russia chipping in with $5.5 billion each.
Over and above this, each of the 250-300 FGFA India hopes to begin inducting from 2020 onwards will cost around $100 million each. In all, India will spend upwards of $35 billion over the next two decades in its biggest-ever defence project till now.
The Indian FGFA will primarily be based on the single-seater Sukhoi T-50, the prototype of which is already flying in Russia, but will include a twin-seater version and a more powerful engine with greater thrust.
“Its complete design will be frozen by the end of the 18-month PDC. Six to seven of its prototypes should be flying by 2017. After that, there will be 2,500 hours of flight-testing over 25 months before the series production begins in 2019,” he said.
toanNot to drift too far off topic, but I don’t understand why the Taiwanese haven’t jumped all over the UAE and Qatari Mirages. :confused:
The ROCAF has been begging for 66 F-16 Block 52s for the past 3-4 years, to no avail. Even if those 72 Mirages were only a 2nd choice (and I’m not sure they would be, given that the -5 is superior in air-to-air – kinematics plus ECM – to the Block 52, and the -9 even better still), the Taiwanese could at least make a go for the Mirages just to get Obama to the negotiating table. I think the French would be OK with Taiwan buying the Mirages, since there’d be enough plausible deniability that they couldn’t block the sale, and the ROCAF would have enough spare parts to last for a while.
All that I can say is that ROCAF is trying its best to get rid of its own Mirages at the time of around 2020…….
So more Mirages ?? No, thank you:D
toanThe Tranche 1 might be axed at the time around 2015.
After 2020, the whole manned fighter force of RAF and RN shall be:
1. Eurofighter T2: 67 or less.
2. Eurofighter T3A: 40 or less.
3. F-35C Lightening II: around 40.
* Total number of manned fighter: no more than 147 fighters, which may just be enough for 5 or 4 frontline squadrons.
toanhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/10/armed-forces-face-1bn-cuts
Armed forces face further £1bn in cutsMinistry of Defence to make extra reductions in addition to those anounced in spending review last year
Richard Norton-Taylor guardian.co.uk, Monday 10 January 2011 19.23 GMT
The armed forces face the immediate prospect of having to make significant cuts – of well over £1bn a year – on top of those announced in October’s defence review, it emerged today.
The Ministry of Defence faces a “nightmare” as it tries to cope with the extra shortfall in this year’s planning round, a leading defence analyst said.
The “defence review has not done enough”, Michael Clarke, director of the Royal United Services Institute, told a conference in London attended by senior military officers.
The annual gap between commitments and available cash for the armed forces over the next few years could amount to as much as £2bn, a situation Clarke described as unsustainable.
This year’s planning round would be a “nightmare”, he said. Even with an increase now to bridge the immediate shortfall the military would need more later this decade to meet the objectives laid out in the defence review.
Under the review the current £38bn annual defence budget will be cut by about 7.5% over the next four years. However, the review also laid out plans for a reduced role for the armed forces by 2020. But even that would require a real terms increase in the defence budget in the years following 2015, military chiefs have insisted.
It has also emerged that the RAF is to scrap more than 50 Eurofighter / Typhoon jets which became operational only three years ago at a cost of more than £4.5bn because it cannot afford to update them.
An MoD spokeswoman said it did not recognise the figures on the immediate defence budget shortfall. However, they were not challenged by senior military personnel present at the conference.
Nick Harvey, the Lib Dem armed forces minister, told the conference Labour had allowed a “massive unfunded liability in defence to build up”.
toanThe main problems that APG-1 faced during 2002 ~ 2007 are the problem of software origin, which should have been solved now.
The F-2A/Bs have begun to integrate AAM-4 since 2008, and one of the F-2A/Bs’ modifications for integrate AAM-4 is APG-1’s upgrading, which improves radar’s A2A detective / tracking range.
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