Which begs the obvious question, “why select a foreign fighter at all if Tejas is so capable”?
We good Indian love to make good friendship with our allies, which means that we sometimes have to be kind and generous enough to buy some overpriced foreign garbage that is no better than our beautiful, perfect, and cheap domestic products from our poor and customer-less foreign friends, otherwise those poor guys may be starved to death:stupid:
The Defense Minister who cries the Rafale:
“Our LCA Tejas is just as cable as the overpriced Rafale with the only 1/5 to 1/6 unit cost of later.”
“We will soooooo~~~n select a good foreign fighter to be made domestically by the end of this fiscal year. The possible candidates include the overpriced Rafale, the over-overpriced Eurofighter, the dwarfed Gripen that is no better than our little beautiful Tejas, and the underpowered and outdated Superbug……”
Manohar Parrikar, the Defence Minister who cries Rafale: “The Rafale is coming !! The Rafale is coming !! The Rafale is coming soooooo~~~~n this June !!!”
AI = Air interdiction –> Something like tactical striking / bombing Russian military base, seaport, airport etc.
* NTISR: non-traditional intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance (sea surveillance, anti-drug or piracy, rescue mission etc).
* SCAR: strike coordination and reconnaissance (such as the mission of searching and hunting ISIS target in a densely populated city).
* CAS: close air support (Thunderbolt-styled jobs).
* DCA: defensive counter air (Fighting with Su-30SM, Su-35, T-50 etc).
* AI: air interdiction (Bombing Russia).
* SEAD/DEAD (The Hunt for Red S300/400/500).
Scoring of survivability for the different missions (5.0 as the highest grade):
* F-35A: NTISR 5.0,SCAR 5.0,CAS 5.0,DCA 5.0,AI 4.0,SEAD/DEAD 4.0; Average: 4.7
* EF-2K: NTISR 5.0,SCAR 4.5,CAS 3.5,DCA 3.0,AI 1.0,SEAD/DEAD 2.0; Average: 3.2
* F-18F: NTISR 5.0,SCAR 4.5,CAS 4.5,DCA 3.0,AI 1.0,SEAD/DEAD 1.0; Average: 3.2
* F-16C: NTISR 5.0,SCAR 5.0,CAS 2.0,DCA 1.0,AI 1.0,SEAD/DEAD 1.0; Average: 2.5
Scoring of effectiveness for the different missions (5.0 as the highest grade):
* F-35A: NTISR 4.3,SCAR 3.3,CAS 3.6,DCA 3.6,AI 5.0,SEAD/DEAD 5.0; Average: 4.2
* EF-2K: NTISR 2.7,SCAR 2.3,CAS 2.7,DCA 3.0,AI 2.0,SEAD/DEAD 2.0; Average: 2.4
* F-18F: NTISR 3.3,SCAR 3.0,CAS 3.3,DCA 2.0,AI 2.0,SEAD/DEAD 2.0; Average: 2.6
* F-16C: NTISR 2.3,SCAR 2.7,CAS 2.3,DCA 1.0,AI 1.0,SEAD/DEAD 1.0; Average: 1.7
Indian Army rejects homegrown missile in blow to ‘Make in India’
Mr. Parrikar: “We will finalize the deal sooooooooooooooooooo~~~~~~~~~n!!!!”:stupid:
Ooops….Here comes another Final Stage…..:applause:
One correction Toan there are 8 IPAs in total! Germany built one as part of each tranche. IPA8 has yet to fly however.
Thanks for correction.
The production numbers and the customers for the Eurofighter Typhoon (2016/04/05):
RAF: 160 fighters in total (3 IPAs, 50 T1s, 67 T2s, 40 T3s).
GrAF: 143 fighters in total (3 IPAs, 32 T1s, 78 T2s, 30 T3s).
ItAF: 96 fighters in total (1 IPA, 27 T1s, 47 T2s, 21 T3s).
SpAF: 73 fighters in total (1 IPA, 18 T1s, 34 T2s, 20 T3s).
AsAF: 15 fighters in total (15 T1s),
RsAF: 72 fighters in total (48 T2s, 24 T3s).
RoAF: 12 fighters in total (12 T3s).
KwAF: 28 fighters in total (28 T3s).
Total conclusion:
* 599 fighters in total (8 IPAs, 142 T1s, 274 T2s, 175 T3s).
* Four original customers with 472 original orders (8 IPAs, 127 T1s, 226 T2s, 111 T3s)
* Four foreign customers with 127 exporting orders (15 T1s, 48 T2s, 64 T3s).
If the customer just wants the CAPTOR radar today with a new swashplated AESA array, then it shall be ready for sale after 2017.
If the customer wants the new modes and the new capabilities (such as electronic attack) for the new radar, then the customer may have to wait a little longer (post-2020).
It costs more than 300 million USDs for Frenchmen to upgrade their 10 Rafale M F1 to the F3 standard ~ I guess RAF does not think it is worthy to do the similar upgrade to its 24 Tranche 1 Typhoon…..
SAINT-CLOUD, France, Oct. 7 (UPI) — The French government has received the first of 10 Rafale F1 naval jets upgraded by Dassault Aviation for expanded mission capabilities.
Dassault said the remaining aircraft will be delivered to DGA, the French armaments procurement agency, by 2017.
Upgrading of the aircraft involved full disassembly and outfitting with new modular electronic computers, new cockpit screens, a change to electrical wiring, installation of an enhanced Spectra counter-measures system, changes to weapon store stations and changes to the RBE2 PESA radar.
“The operational advantage provided by the F3 standard results in a variety of new missions achievable after the upgrade,” DGA said. “In addition to air defense, ground attack and in-flight refueling, F3 standard Rafale Marines are capable of anti-ship attack, reconnaissance, laser designation and autonomous illumination, and nuclear strike.”
The contract for upgrade is worth about $301 million. Working on the program with Dassault Aviation are Service Industriel de l’Aéronautique, the Ministry of Defense’s aircraft workshops, Thales, MBDA and Sagem.
It may just like the difference between Rafale F1 and Rafale F3, or JAS-39A/B and JAS-39C/D ~ Most of, or Entire of the computer systems, softwares, avionics, electric wires and power system , and cooling system have been changed.
I wonder what BVRAAM will these 24 Tranche 1 Typhoon use in the next 25 years ??
Without the Phase Enhancement upgrade packages, it seems that Tranche 1 Typhoon will not be able to use Meteor BVRAAM; and the AIM-120B/C5 it uses now shall have to be retired in the near future…..
The UK Royal Air Force (RAF) is to field as a separate air defence force the Tranche 1 (T1) Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft that are to be retained in service beyond their original retirement date.
The 24 T1 aircraft that were extended from 2019 to the wider Typhoon out-of-service date (OSD) of 2040 in the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) of November 2015 will be formed into two distinct air defence squadrons, rather than being mixed with other T2 and T3 aircraft in other multirole units, Deputy Commander of Operations Air Marshal Greg Bagwell told reporters on 30 March.
“The issue was how to operate the Tranche 1 alongside the Tranche 2 and 3 as there is very little spares commonality between them, so it was decided that the plan [should be] for two new squadrons of Tranche 1 Typhoons,” AM Bagwell said.
Given the software limitations of the T1, the RAF has decided not to try and upgrade these particular platforms with the Phase Enhancement upgrade packages that will afford the T2 and T3 platforms with the full swing-role capability set. As such, they will be used solely for air defence duties, and perhaps for adversarial air combat training for other RAF aircraft types.
“The Tranche 1s will be used purely for air defence, as an upgrade [for swing-role] will be prohibitively expensive. The two squadrons of Tranche 1 Typhoons will own the air defence role, and we are also looking at using them for ‘red air’ along with the Hawk,” AM Bagwell noted.