The development of Gripen NG has already showed us the most reasonable and possible non-American, manned, and “new” fighter choice(s) for the European countries in the next 25 to 30 years: Gripen NG, Rafale MLU or NG, and Eurofighter MLU or NG.

And if we are lucky enough, we may see the European countries begin to discuss about co-developing a completely new design for replacing Typhoon, Rafale, and Gripen after 2025.

Btw

Any news from the Italian defence ministers visit to Kuwait?

Well, the deal shall be signed on 2015/11/15 –> 2015/12/23 –> 2016/01/06 –> 2016/01/31 –> 2016/02/19 –>……..:angel:

IS LRSB a supersonic design or a subsonic one like B-2 ?

They want a new bomber with much better stealth capability than B-2A.

They want a new bomber that is smaller than B-2A with the combat range of 5,000 NM class.

They want a new bomber with the 1/3 to 1/4 unit cost of B-2A, or about 80 billion USDs for 80 to 100 LRS-B bomber.

All the requirements mentioned above strongly indicate a subsonic design.

http://espresso.repubblica.it/attualita/2015/09/14/news/eurofighter-una-gaffe-minaccia-il-contratto-record-1.229479?refresh_ce

Finmeccanica: “Thanks!!! Palazzo Chigi, that’s a really great slapping to our noble customer’s face!!!!:mad:”

http://airbusdefenceandspace.com/newsroom/news-and-features/flight-test-of-eurofighter-aerodynamic-upgrades-completed/
Excellent!
25% more lift
45% more AoA
100% more roll rate
A new plane… I guess it’s what Scorpion wrote about.

I wonder how low the Typhoon’s roll rate can be before the modification…..

But when did that JAS39A start conversion to a C? I doubt if work began on it in 2007 or 8.

Hungary ordered 14 in 2003, & they were delivered by the end of 2007. New C were being built at the same time, & also at the same time as the Swedish conversions. I expect that the production/conversion line wasn’t running flat out for the latter, but trying to provide steady work.

One question is: How many residual JAS-39A/B are still left ??

In total, Sweden AF procured 125 JAS-39A and 15 JAS-39B.

* 3 JAS-39A were lost due to the air crash accidents between 1993 and 2005.

* 16 airframes of JAS-39A/B were decided to be converted to 14 JAS-39C/D for Hungary AF during 2003.

* 20 2nd batch JAS-39A were upgraded to JAS-39C for Sweden AF before 2007.

* 18 JAS-39A and 13 JAS-39B were upgraded to JAS-39C and JAS-39D for Sweden AF between 2008 and 2015.

* No less than 12 JAS-39A (with or without B) were converted to 12 JAS-39C/D (8C and 4D) for Thailand airforce after 2011.

According to my personal calculation, the Sweden AF shall have no more than 58 JAS-39A in stockpile, and I wonder how many of them are still intact enough that can be directly converted to JAS-39C/D ~ The JAS-39A/B with better condition should already have been chosen by SwAF, HuAF, and ThAF for upgrading to the JAS-39C/D in the past 10+ years……..

i still think the best way is to lease C until E is available for any new customer

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/russia-s-baltic-operations-burden-swedish-air-force

The Sweden air chief: “Sorry, dude, no more JAS-39C/D for leasing. I am more and more reluctant to lease our C/Ds to Brazil, not to mention leasing more C/Ds to Slovakia”

http://www.janes.com/article/50817/switzerland-to-relaunch-f-5-replacement-effort-in-2017

lolol. had they stuck by it..they’d already have their first gripens before the restart of this competition.

this time its just Gripen, Rafale, Super hornet.

they don’t love the typhoon

And the majority of Swiss people don’t love anything named “fighter”. Who care ??

Who will win ?? The veto will.