Moving away from the fighter problem for a moment I think Argentina needs to look at its transport fleet at this time it has 24 aircraft with 4 types C-130H- Fokker F-28- Fokker F27- SAAB -340 I feel that with their home and UN commitments they need a more flexible fleet

As of 2013 they are signed up to 6 KC-390’s I think that this type is a number of years away and gives time to bring in two more types that will give them maximum flexibility 767 MMTT and C-295 over 6 years

Year 1 ) 1 767-200 MMTT 50 million dollars estimated
2 C-295’s cost 56 million dollars known
Retire the F-27 fleet
Cost Year 1 106 Million dollars

Year 2 ) 1 767 MMTT 50 million dollars estimated
2 C-295’s cost 56 million dollars known
Retire the F-28 fleet
Cost Year 2 106 Million dollars

Year 3 ) 2 C-295’s cost 56 million dollars known

Year 4 ) 2 KC-390 cost 110 million known
Retire the first 2 C-130H and the L-100

Year 5 ) 2 KC-390 cost 110 million known
Retire 3 C-130H

Year 6 ) 2 KC-390 cost 110 million known
Retire the last C-130H and the 2 KC-130

After 6 year they would have

2 767-200 MMTT’s
6 K-390’s
6 C-295’s

Total cost for 14 highly flexible transport aircraft 600 million dollars or 1/50th of the defence budget of 5 billion dollars a year for 6 years if you add the cost of the 18 Mirage F-1M at 235 million dollars which will make the cost 835 million over the 6 years

I think if they were to get IAI 767 ‘s 1 in 2014 and 1 in 2015 these could be operated alongside the KC-390 fleet and even replaced by the KC-390 in 10-15 years also I think there is a market for this type so selling them on should not be a problem

Tony thank you for your kind words

A seat can be maintained and operated correctly this dose not mean it will operate correctly. As an engineer I have tested parts on the bench that have tested OK but once fitted to the air-frame have proven to have a fault the MK-10 has a number of cartridges and triggers that operate in sequence all you need is a dud cartridge which you can’t test you can only fit and hope it fires when needed

It seems that some fellow users of this forum lately made some confusion on the specifications of the Kfir Block 60.
I suggest to have a new and relaxed read to the page of the supplier about the Kfir blk 60: http://www.iaf.org.il/4399-41016-en/IAF.aspx

These aircraft are different from the previus block supplied to Colombia, which already are serving well anyway.
Wheter any eventual Argentine Kfir would be supplied of AESA is questionable, anyway these a/c are much more advanced then any F-1 on sale as of today.

F-1 MF2000 is on sale today and as far as I can see is as capable as Kfir blk 60 in fact with RDY-3 and MICA has a better BVR capability and with Damocles and AASM F-1 will hold its own in A2G

yeah I saw it, but we can’t really switch with whatever we want right? you just dismissed the M2k.
but how is the M2k too expensive compared to a long out of production turbojet

Firstly I have not dismissed anything secondly if you can find some M2K’s that don’t need much in the way of a upgrade that have hour left please put them forward with costs so we can all put this info up against F-1 – Kfir – JF-17 – F16 costs

but why not used m2k or upgraded kfirs?

Please read what it said at the top of the post (just switch F-1M for what ever you want )

And in June when this post first came out the thread had dismissed M2K as to expensive and no air-frames around and Kfir blk60 was not on the table