based on what source? btw no one said the Flanker was a stealth plane you lovely piece of cow poo *eats you*

It’ll be fun to see the Indians looking like this –>:mad: next year when the FC1/JF17 is unveiled in final form, and the J10A/B/C come online, and sold to Pakistan. It was awesome seeing them red with envy and anger when China launched a man to outer-space. 😀

Notice this guy Hamburger gets very personal calling people idiot, etc. It shows he is extremely an insecure person, and most likely has a small penis. 😛

Hamburger, no matter how much you vent and insult people here, the JF17 is going forward, and will be inducted soon, and leave your pitiful LCA project behind. You can’t stop it. 😀

Indians must think if they type hard enough, the JF17 will go away. 😀

I’ve always wondered this. If PAF sells XX # of JF17s, who gets the revenue? China or Pakistan? Or is it split? If China sells XX # of FC1s, likewise, who gets the revenue?

Isn’t stealth a simple concept? If USA could build a F117 in th 1970s, I think China today can build a stealth fighter with at least equivalent stealth of an F117? It’s just a matter of avoiding right angles so that radar waves are not reflected back directly. And the use of carbons, internal storage of weapons/bombs, and RAM painting.

Ok, GD. I agree. But there were rumours of first prototype in Pak. Anyway, those that see smoke should buy a new screen…

About the size… Wow. It is small…

Nope. It definitely has a smoke trail. I see it clearly on my LCD monitor, and it’s no mistake either.

Notice the FC1 still has a smokey engine. I thought they were fixed that on the later models. So it must be an older prototype. Not the newer ones.

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Ha ha ha.. Superior!!!!!! thats why they seemed to be so excited about Su-30mkk-3 So acoridng to U it is because its out of sheer love that China has for Father Russia and is making purchases from Russia to demonstrate that.

Yes it is superior because for 40 years China has been successfull in recycling MiG21 and SU-17 again and again???

Is it superior because it still continues to produce AN-12’s???

No No J-XX is still superior because it will be China who would be demonstrating “Plasma Stealth” technology to the world for the first time???

Now u talk of Designs??? Out of How many actual design envisaged by china
have developed into FIGHTER PLANES????????

Regds
Infinity

Speaking of Chinese designs, let’s get back to the topic. I think China’s FC1/JF17 is a pretty cool aircraft at a great price. To answer your question Infiinity, it seems like China’s on quite a roll lately. First the J10. Now FC1. In about 10-15 years, we’ll see J12 and/or J13. And it will probably be very cheap in comparison to the F22. A 70% capable Chinese Raptor for about 40-50 million. Sounds like a winner to me. 3 J13 against 1 Raptor. Which will win? My money’s on the J13. 🙂

> I don’t think Russia is ahead of China anymore

* russia/ussr has developed and fielded dozens of engine types
* dozens of competitive fighter types
* dozens of advanced missile types
* dozens of radars
* dozens of large aircraft upto the AN-225 level
* dozens of successful SAM types

china does a better job in commerical manufacturing but in the military
area, Russia is still far ahead. thats why china is still spending billions of
$$ in buying up russian arms and trying to collaborate in many programs.

Name a few chinese defence products made totally locally that are equal or better than what russia has on the table today.

Hmm..think for yourself why the Chinese would choose to develop the JXX by itself instead of joining the Russians?

What are the implications of this?