Elliot,
I think you need to talk to JDK, who is/was a member of this forum. He did, IIRC, crawl all over the Hendon Defiant to get shots for the Mushroom series on the aircraft. He is worth a try at least.
Mmmmmmiles:D The composit is escorted by what looks like two Miles M3 Falcons, and the wingtip visible in the picture looks very “Miles”. I seriously doubt this is a trial flight. Two (maybe three) aircraft from a different manufacturer would not be so close on a trial flight, IMHO. Would be great to know the reggies of the two Miles aircraft. Can anything be made out on the original?
Fact. I do not have the exact dates at hand, but the production of Biro ballpoint pens by Miles is a fact
Off the top of my head I think it was a Warner Scarab.
Correct, and that engine came originally from the Red Beaver based at Popham.
Phil,
I applaude your enthusiasm and drive, and hope you´ll get around to building your replica. Here are some of my thoughts on the subject.
If at all possible, try and stay away from playwood covered aircraft. They can possibly have very complicated compound curves that are very difficult to make in plywood. Some of the compound curves seen on my Gemini are out of this world, so to speak, but fourtunately it looks like I´ll be able to use the old once in most cases, so will not have to make new ones:) If I had to, it would be a nightmare:eek:
Secondly, try to set your sights on an aircraft with known drawings. Having to make the drawings as you go, as well as to build the aircraft will be a huge amount of extra work, and in the end, you might not end up with an accurate outline of the aircraft you wanted to build. Quite a few have made that mistake, but I´ll not be mentioning any specifics:diablo: An Avro 504 will be a bit difficult, as no fuselage drawings are known to exist, only wings and MOST of the metal. If you get a good connection at someone like Skysport, you might be able to get the rest, but do not hold your breath.
With regards to engines, if you are making a non-flying replica anyway, the engine should not stop you making what ever aircraft that takes your fancy. If you do not have the correct engine, you will just build a replica engine out of what ever there is, but one that LOOKS correct. Most people will never know the difference between a good replica engine an the real one.
Just my thoughts.
Kev, thank you for an exelent post. This is really thought provoking and has all the space it needs in Historic. This is the post a lot of us, I´m sure, had hoped to post, but never got around to do. Remembering the veterance is our duty, be it the WWI or WWII. They are the reason we are on a forum like this one to day. Always remember that!!!
I would, however, like to take an issue with this statement of ours, Kev,
Could I have done it? I really don’t think so. kev35
Of course you could have done it, just like any other soldier. They were just soldiers, all they knew was that the death was just around the corner. Just like present day soldiers in Iraq or Afganistan. If you were in Iraq or Afganistan, you wouldn´t give a second thought about what you are doing. Not that I agree with the polititians, but I respect the service men and women doing the duty. It would have been much the same in WWII
BRG
Sigurjón
Cees, I´m afraid your question is a bit difficault to answer, but I´ll try my best. I´m by no means an expert, but this is how I understand the rules at the moment.
Lets start with an aircraft of british origins being restored in another country. In that case, two basic scenarios exist.
If the aircraft has a recognized Design Authority (DA) in the UK (for example dH Support for most dH types), any and all change in the basic design must be approved by the DA holder. That for example applies to substitution of BA hardware with AN hardware. If the DA holder approves such a change, I can see no reason for the CAA to refuse import of such an aircraft to the UK with full registration without question. The aircraft must furthermore be registered as Normal Category aircraft (if flown before export to the UK) in it´s country of registration if the CAA is to approve it on the register.
The next scenario is a british design restored in a foreigin country, but one that has no DA in the UK. In that case, the aircraft has to be restored to the original standard (all hardware and work practices), and has to be registered as Normal Category aircraft in it´s country of registration if it is issued with a an Airworthiness Certificate.
Reason for this emphisis on Normal Category registration in it´s country of restoration, is the fact that experiment category (or permit to fly) is not an internationally recognized restoration/maintainance standard, and so, will most probably not be recognized in it´s country of import. Even getting an FAA Experimental Category aircraft, that is not supported by the LAA, onto the UK Permit to Fly register is impossible. Just ask Hairyplane about his Klemm:o
If you have an aircraft originally built in a foreigin country, you can import it into another country (UK), as long as it´s restoration was done to the originating country´s standards for a Normal Category of Airworthiness. It might, however, end up on the receiving country´s experimental (or permit to fly) register, if the type has not got a valid ICAO type certificate.
Lets take some examples here. I´m restoring a Miles Gemini in Iceland. I´m restoring it to original specs, but there are two roads open to me. I can register it in the Icelandic Experimental Category, in which case, it will not be accepted onto the UK register again unless it is taken to pieces and the build quality checked against the original specs or the DA´s approvals for changes to the original specs. As the aircraft is already done to original specs, I could register it in the Normal Category, with mechanics sign off for all stages of the restoration. In that case the UK CAA will probably accept the aircraft without questions onto the Normal Category in the UK.
Take another example. An american warbird is restored in the US. It is done to FAA standards for Normal Category aircraft. The UK will accept such an aircraft onto the register either as a Normal Category, or a Permit to Fly, and that is the devil in the detail, as it will probably take a few negotiating rounds with the CAA (with all the paperwork at hand) to establish into which category the aircraft will fall. If this same aircraft, restored to the same standards, would have been FAA experimental category registered, there would be no hope to get it onto the register (without some very good negotiating tactick on behalf of the new owner).
This is just how I understand the basic rules. I´m open for correction on the basics. If I´ve got something seriously wrong, someone in the know please correct me.
Anyway, come 28th of September, all will change when the new EU rules come into play. I must admit that I´ve not read them well enough to say what changes will come at that time, but I suspect they will be considerable, and maybe not all of them for the benifit of classic aircraft.
All the best,
Sigurjón
I have no idea how I ended up here, but spend most of my time smiling at some of the discussions.
Well, I´m pretty much like you Yak 11 Fan, I´ve no idea how I ended up here, but I´m not smiling at some of the discussions. I´m laughing my ar*se off:D:D:D
The final draw for me was when someone suggested that a powerful (aldis?) light had to been shown onto a Lanc´s props to sync them. I laughted my ar*se off. No wonder the german nightfighters had so much success, with bright lights to sync props showing all over the place:eek::D:D
Now, I´m not much here anymore:rolleyes:
Now this is getting really interesting! As I do not have a middle name, I went for my airline´s three lettercode, and got the DC-7C.
If I use my true two initials with the G-AA– code, as G-AASV, an understandibly deregistered Blackburn Mk. IV Bluebird. Very fitting, as I, at one time, was contemplating a replica Bluebird construction. It never got off the drawing board, so to spead:eek:
My wive does, indeed, have a true three letter code. In the G-A series, that would make her G-ALGJ, which is a Miles M14A Hawk Trainer 3:eek::eek: In other words, I´m married to a Miles Magister:eek::eek::eek: How creepy is that given my interest in all things MMMMMiles:D:D
it is a write off.
How many times have we heard that in the past? Truth is, a plane like the Tri-Pacer is never a “write off”. True, it may be beyond economic repair, if the repair is to be done by professionals paid by the hour. If, however, a skilled individual gets his hands on the “wreck”, he/she can be flying pretty cheaply after a few years if they do not count their work hours as cost. Not being familiar with the UK´s PFA rules (LAA or what ever they are called now!), I can not be sure if it is possible in the UK, but it is very possible in Iceland to register a Tri-Pacer in the experimental catigory if the owner restored it, and I´ve seen many cases of such rebirths of a “write off”, mainly Piper Cubs, and a Pitts.
If they are going to scrap it, please let me know. I have potential customers lined up for the carcass;) The price has to be right of course:D:D:D
Must have been a female pilot at the controls!!
No pilot at the controls, so no female pilot there;) Last I heard, all onboard where mechanics from Etihad. Something went very wrong there. Will be interesting to read the report.
Speculation of tyre burst or bird strike.
Neither of which should end up like that:(
Using my three letter code, I´m either:
G-ASIV a Douglas DC7C or
G-BSIV a Socata TB 10 later registered as G-CTCL.
I know which one I prefere!
Mrs G´s selection
1. B17
2. Lancaster
3. Harvard
4. Spitfire
5. Mustang
Not a bad list, eh?
What are the engines anyway? P&W R-2800/R-34??
I think you will find them to be Rolls Royce Tyne engines. Regarding their value, I do not think they are worth very much for airworthy puposes, as I can not remember any other airworthy Tyne engined aircraft flying. There is one potentioally airworthy CL44 in Brazzaville, Congo, but I think it will never fly again, having been sat there on the ground for some years now.