Not too impressed up there in the chilly north guys?
Well, I’ve never seen it in the flesh. Judging by the pictures, it DOES have a nice paint job inside and out ๐ :rolleyes: ๐
Anyway, at least it’s on display – unlike the gorgeous Hawk mouldering away in the RAF Museum’s ‘Reserve Collection’. Nutters like me ( and probably nutters like our chums in Iceland..??!!) would be happy to spend 3 times what its worth on restoring it to fly.
Hawk mouldering away is a crime that should carry a very heavy punishment. This Icelandic Nutter would be happy to provide a good home for it ๐
Mind you, the prospect of chillywi11y in an open cockpit machine in Iceland doesn’t exactly excite me so it has to come to me OK!
There are no chillywi11ies here. We dress them up before flight ๐ And the Hawk has to come to ME. We are not going to fight over it, are we? ๐
I think it looks lovely – great paint job inside and out too.
Hummmmmm….
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This subject is a minefield. There is a lot of difference of opinion regarding the combat claims of the Luftwaffe.
The book Luftwaffe Fighter Aces By Mike Spick (ISBN 1-85367-560-19) deals with the subject in some detail. I’m not in agreement with everything that he writes in that book, but the basic conclusion draw, is that the amazing tallies of victories cradited to some of the german fighter aces boils down to difference in operational culture of the fighters and superior tactics in the first half of the war, and survival of the fittest in the later part of the war.
There can be no doubt that during the early part of the war, the German Jagdwaffe had a huge tactical superiority over over the rest of Europe. Their use of open line abrest formations was far superior over the tight formations flown by the RAF for example. Early on, that must have contributed to a lot of victories.
The operational culture of the Jagdwaffe was very different from that of the RAF. The RAF was a team effort, while the Jagdwaffe was more of an individual effort by a team of experten. It was the leader of a flight, be it in a Staffel, gruppe or geshwader strength, that did the shooting. The sole purpose of the others was to cover his back from any nasty surprises. Thus, the leader was always in the best position to take on the enemy in good tactical situations. To take an example, on the 18th of august 1940, Gerhard Schรถpfel leading jagdgeshwader 26, surprised Hurricanes of 501 Squadron near Dover. Having the tactical edge, he ordered the whole geshwader to remain on guard high above, while he swooped down alone and picked out four of the Hurricanes in less than two minutes, before the rest of the formation joined in. Had it been the RAF in the same situation, the whole formation would probably have gone down into the fight and the individual scores would have been lower, though the total score should have been roughly the same. This is not an isolated incidence, but the norm.
On the other hand we know, that the Jagdwaffe was overclaiming about 2 to 1 during the BoB, so can we then devide their scores by two?
Galdri,
The Pilot of the Jungmann who you saw overhead Headcorn was almost certainly Pete Kynsey….As you say, Slow, easy and very, very GRACEFUL. Exactly how a Jungmann should be displayed.
Thank you very much for that ๐ Now I have probable name for one of the best pilots I’ve ever seen ๐
Looks like it could be a Wildcat ๐ ๐ ๐ Highly modified Pitts S1 with a six banger up front. I’ve never seen it before, so it might be something else. ๐
They don’t bite. It is probably one of the easiest aerial vehicle available. Only thing to watch is the speed on final. Cross the threshold at no more than 60 kts with flap 30/40, flare, and it will land all by it self. With the speed higher than that, it will float for ever, and if forced down, will land on the nosewheel. In some cases the nosewheel will give way during such abuse with rather embarrasing resaults ๐ฎ
What is the best pilot there ever was? What is the best pilot I’ve ever seen? So many men to choose from! Here is my list, in no particular order.
Magnus Nordahl, a local aerobatic pilot and aircraft nut. Pushing 80 years old and puts all us younger guys to shame with his aerobatic routines in the YAK 55. Has flown everything from Tiger Moths to DC-10’s and has wonderful stories of all of them.
Smari Karlsson Over 80 years old and still has the touch. Watching him show off the Citabria at the local club is a real treasure. In 62 years of flying he has never dented an aircraft.
Robert ‘BOB’ Hoover The best aerobatic display pilot I’ve ever seen. Watching his Shrike Commander routine is a pure bliss.
Ray Hanna Seeing him do his routine in the Spitfire is the best presention of a Warbird I’ve ever seen.
My last nominee is nameless. In 1998 I watched a Bucker Jungman practising aerobatics over Headcorn, and what a wonderfull display of skill and precision! That was the way aerobatics are supposed to be flown in an old biplane. Slow, easy and very, very GRACEFUL. It brought a tear to my eye watching it.
As you have seen, there are no war heros in my list. The reason is, that it is impossible to include them all. I’ve seen none of them fly, and can not judge their flying. All of them are, however, heros and should be on a list like that.
On the ATR, we would reach over and dump the seat, on which the PA speaker was sitting, right to the floor with a loud BANG. Then listen with a grim satisfaction to the noises made on the PA :diablo:
On the ATR, we would reach over and dump the seat, on which the PA speaker was sitting, right to the floor with a loud BANG. Then listen with a grim satisfaction to the noises made on the PA :diablo:
This is a very touchy subject, and over the years a lot of literature has been written about it, and not all of it accurate, unfourtunately. It is a sad fact, that in a total war, like the Second World War was, innocent people will get killed and that killing of innocents will continue as long as mankind is unable to find a peacefull resolution of it’s arguments. The horrors that the population of Dresden had to endure, are unthinkable for most people at this point in time.
I will not enter into a debate about the rights and wrongs of the bombing of Dresden. We can not judge history on the moral standards of today. We can not, for example, find any moral standard of today to cover the Whitch Hunts in Medival times. Still, it was the norm in those times. All we can say is, this is history, this is what happened.
However, the fall out from the raid on Dresden is something that I will comment on. Because of the uncomfortable nature of the whole thing, high ranking politians (Churchill among others) tried to wash their hands of the whole bombing campaign, even though it had been very aggressively planned, and backed, by them through out the war. Even the bombing of Dresden was a political decision, against the advise of some senior military commanders (Arthur Harris among others). Yet, in the last few weeks of war the whole effort of Bomber Command is denied by the politians and the crews denied of any recognition in the form of the campaign medal the so rightly deserved. And that is what get’s me heated up! The politians saw it fit to send tens of thousands of young men to their deaths, but afterwards disowned them because it fitted their agenda of the moment ๐ก Politians are always the same!! ๐ก
Well, this is what I would recon. I’m not an expert on UK geography, but what I can tell you is that I’ve had a Jodel DR1051 transported for me, from Hastings to Bedford. It cost me 1250 quid, exactly, and a Jodel is a lot smaller and lighter than a JP
I do not know how much the transport is going to be, best guess is a couple of thousand pounds sterling :confused: For the dismantling bit, if you are going to have someone do it for you, recon on about three blokes for a two days (dismantling and making ready for transport), each of them on about 25 quids an hour. That would make 600 for the dismantling process in labour, plus expenses (things needed to secure the airframe on the trailer etc.).
When you are putting it back togeather, what do you want to do with it? If you are just going to have it as it was, the reverse would hold true. About 600 quids. If you are going to do anything, it will cost money. What exactly are you thinking?
Since we are talking P(or F) 80 and T33’s here, I have a question. Last month I was flying into Sauda Bay on Crete. That airport is a joint Civil/Military thing, and during the turnaround, I counted about 20 or so T33 neatly parked on the military side of the airport. Does anyone know if these Greek planes are operational or are there for some other reason?
Well, when Mr. MOL is telling the Europeans to “Foxtrot Oscar” when they demand back a fraction of his subsideries from Belgium, what makes you thing he will react any differently to this?
He will just tell his Staff to “Foxtrot Oscar”. That is his style!
Well, when Mr. MOL is telling the Europeans to “Foxtrot Oscar” when they demand back a fraction of his subsideries from Belgium, what makes you thing he will react any differently to this?
He will just tell his Staff to “Foxtrot Oscar”. That is his style!