Dear sir,
I would like the see the Typhoon on a self escorting strike mission with 4-6 LGB and 2 A2A missiles and full fuel load super cruise at mach 1.3-1.5. if it can do this this, I would be impressed.
Dear sir,
hear is another link just in case you disregard the 1st once since its wiki.
http://www.answers.com/topic/supercruise
Supercruise is sustained supersonic flight of an aircraft with a useful cargo, passenger, or weapons load performed efficiently and without the use of afterburners (“reheat”).
Due to its combination of decades long scheduled service and length of time spent at supersonic speeds, the main user of supercruise was Concorde, with more time spent in supersonic, largely supercruise flight, than all of the other aircraft put together.[1]
The peak drag is ~Mach 1 and is “down-hill” after that or you have surplus thrust for further accelleration. May I remember you that your claim about Mach 1,5 was for a clean F-22! 😎
Dear sir,
At mach 1 parts of your aircraft are still subsonic, transonic. When you need to carry a real war load its nice to have all of your plane out of the transonic area.
Hanging Bombs on a plane will create transonic air flow over the munitions.
Hence mach 1.5 is a nice place to be with a combat load ( read internal) since its more efficient and you can rest assure that you don’t have transonic flow and wave drag on the mentioned weapons stores. This is the reason LM says super cruise is mach 1.5 with a decent war load
The F-22 has demonstrated supercruise speeds of at least Mach 1.7, a difference of 320 knots (593 km/h) indicated airspeed (KIAS) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m).[6] Supercruise in militarily significant parlance is meant to imply a significant increase in effective combat speed with a full weapons load over existing types. Virtually all current and past jet fighters, prior to the F-22, cruise at approximately Mach 0.8–0.9 with a militarily significant weapons load. The F-22 represents a significant advance in cruise speed over previous types.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercruise
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the EF cannot super cruise. Super cruising with a full combat load is another story.
Scooter, all I hear from you is nonsense.
The F-22 being less survivable than the F-35.
Your weak grasp of technical concepts.. including wing loading, external stores vs. internal stores.
The fact that you bandy about words like 5th generation, 4th generation, 4.5 generation; as if they mean anything in this context… The mere fact these marketing terms exist seem to make you think stating them is proof, that the F-35 is superior, in the areas of comparison you’ve made. Its quite naive and embarrassing actually.
You need to try understand that despite the F-35 being able to carry internal stores; a Eurofighter with 4 semi recessed BVRAAMS and 2 WVRAAMs and a centerline drop tank might well out-maneuver/climb/accelerate, a clean F-16/35. Eurofighter is a step improvement in kinematics over all teen designs – its not an incremental improvement.
Dear sir,
More fuel = More times on station, AB, and more time to climb. The thing your missing in your EF. F-35 comparison, is that the EF has to Use several drop tanks just to match the fuel load of the F-35. This will seriously degrade performance. The F-35 can dump fuel if it needs more energy. The Typhoon can drop tanks, but then its even even more fuel restricted. another issue is the Euro fighter dealing with High of bore sight weapons. What good is it if you can out turn me but cant out turn my missiles? When you compare a full combat loaded EF and a full combat loaded F-35 its apples to oranges.
if you wanna compare apples to apples, then you must remove the Tanks, Missiles, ect, from the Typhoon. And BTW did Typhoon ever get a gun?
Dear sir,
I was explaining why LM uses 1.5. Rember when we are talking fligh5 regimes we are discussing combat configurations. If your going try to compare F-22 and Ef then you need to account for wave drag on all of those EF wing tanks ect
Dear, sir
1. The F-35 will use a Low probability AESA radar to track the EF 1st
2. The F-35 will be able to use meteor
3. Even without the meteor, the F-35 can fire at mach 1.6
4. The F- 35 will use the hobs aim9x for close range.
5. Stealth is a proven concept
Your worried about wing loading when the Typhoon has to turn into flying
Gas can to keep up with the F-35s fuel load.
Dear sir
.9-1.2 with cft, missiles, bombs?
You still havent explained how you plan to merge
Dear sir,
1. The reason LM states that super cruise starts at mach 1.5 is that below that speecertaon parts of the plane can still have transonic flow
Dear sir,
I think your missing somthing.
1.The F-35 in combat configuration has as much fuel as a typhoon with tanks.
2. The F-35 will fight using its strengths, BVR + VLO.
3.The F-35 is a superior omnirole fighter
Dear sir,
How do think massed A-10 strikes wound fair? If there is no S-300 support could they use A-10 like Gw 1?

very interesting
Dear sir,
What does the Euro canard strike package look like, compared to the stealthy penetrating strike?
i seem to recall a Luftwaffe tactic used by the F-4F crews before they had AMRAAM, where they wore the opposition down, forcing them to uselessly waste there shots, then knocking the opposition(F-15,16,18etc) off at close range, or when they bugged out.
A good aircraft isnt bulletproof against a wily opponent with abit of bravery and good tactics who refuses to let you engage in your preferred envelope!
Dear sir,
How can I waste my shots when you don’t know your being shot at?
ockheed Marine Corps F-35 Gets Two Extra Years to Fix Glitc Very Happy
Tony Capaccio in Washington at [email]acapaccio@bloomberg.net[/email].
Article in Alert5.com
Defense Secretary Robert Gates will recommend giving the Marine Corps as much as two additional years to develop its version of Lockheed Martin Corp.’s F-35 fighter to correct technical and manufacturing glitches that have delayed testing, according to two defense officials.
Gates told General James Amos, the Marine Corps commandant, of the decision in a Dec. 3 meeting on the fiscal 2012 budget, according to the officials, who asked not to be identified because the session wasn’t public.
The Marines’ short-takeoff and vertical-landing aircraft, the most complex version of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, has had flight-test schedule delays, some caused by parts shortages or reliability.
Dear Mr Robben,
Please explain to us how the EF or the Rafale will get to the merge with the F-35. Why would the F-35 choose to merge with in the euro canards sensor range, when it can merge from the rear or take a side shot? How will the EF Rafale escape the 1st shot? even if you could out turn it, the stealth will ensure that the F-35 engages on favorable terms. How will the Legacy fighters detect the F-35 when they are out classed in every sensor area, including IRST?