RE: Hawkinge
Hawkinge is in my mind, worthy of saving at least some of the remaining parts. Sure some looks dilapidated but some of it could be absorbed into the excellent Kent Battle of Britain Museum (blast pen, hangar base, fuel depot).
Regarding there not being much worth saving, well it makes me laugh. If it was a Spitfire (or a Rembrant) that was being put in a furnace and only half was left a queue of people would say whoa! Stop doing that! Far fetched analogy maybe? But, I think that some of it should join the museum and the some of the rest should be made into a green playing area perhaps.
I found it horrendous how much the housing had encroached the museum. Some house buyer will throw open his/her curtains and see the museum 1 ft from his/her fence. If the developers have their way, the museum will be totally surrounded by houses. It makes me sad that we (collective) allowed the airfield to be built on.
The problem is that developers start little, say build 200 houses, then more go up and then even more. By this way they completely cover our historic airfields. Hawkinge was the closest airfield to France and the enemy. It was a Battle Ground and deserves to be listed as such as much as Naseby and all the greal Civil War battlefields. Call me an idiot or soft, I don’t care!
Sure we cannot save everything, but it is the usual ‘we needn’t bother cos there are…..other airfields still around’ (quotes a rapidly shrinking list.
What the Luftwaffe failed to do in 1940, the developers are doing now!
One chap said that airfields exude history….it is true….it is almost like they are tape recorders that playback to those ‘tuned in’. When I was a student in the mid 80s I would go to Hornchurch and walk around the blast pens and former airfield. I could close my eyes and feel the aircraft and pilots around me. I went into the old officers or sgts mess, the big old fire place they used to warm their backs against was said to still smell of hot leather (from the Irvin jackets) on some nights. A lady working from a mobile home, selling houses on the airfield said how she ‘saw things’ that most do not believe in…..If there are ghosts they would be at airfields.
Just one last point, they have built housing estates all round the airfield at Boscombe Down (it seems ridiculous but true as we are an active airfield!) They then fill these houses with idiots who spend their whole life moaning about aviation that is committed over their fences. Some roads are named….’Nicolson Close’ ‘Barnes Wallis Close’, ‘Tempest Way’ and ‘Lightning Way’ etc. unfortunately the majority of house occupants don’t have a clue as to who/what these people/planes were. The latest estate is named Beamont after the great man himself. I wrote to him about 2 years before his deatha nd asked him what he thought. He said that he had rang them to complain and they said ‘Oh, awfully sorry but we thought you were dead!’.
Anyway, thanx for the discussion….sorry my post rambled on but I feel strongly about this part of our history
Regards
Tony
RE: Caption competition
‘My goodness, that was a bumpy landing!’
RE: Best preserved UK airfield
Stapleford Tawney was pretty good and original (complete with grass strip!). Upavon is good and still compares well with my Grandfather’s 1940 aerial snaps. Hullavington is good too and is a conservation area methinx
Tony
RE: Display separation of mixed types
No problem there. The Meteor is suitably below the hunter in order to keep out of the dirty airflow due to wake and jet wash whilst keeping close visual references with the leader. Both aircraft also have suitable escape routes (not to mention that the pilots involved both have extensive formation experience).
RE: Hawkinge
Thanx Dezz & Ashley for this…my letters will be on their way tommorrow am ….
regards
Tony ‘Blood Boiling’ Dyer
RE: Planning Disaster – Act Now!!
Ditto….in the post tommorrow! (And my dog will thank you as she will get another walk this week past the post box!!!)
Seriously, along with the issue Tony has raised about our fallen war heroes, this is a VERY important issue.
A chap I know who lives near Hawkinge ran out to his idiot mp who was in the street on walkabout and who is supporting the Hawkinge housing blight and gave him an Iron Cross 2nd class for completing what the Luftwaffe had failed to do to Hawkinge in 1940!
RE: Why on earth……….?
You are right Sadsack, BBMF developed a new reduction gear housing casting with Rolls Royce. ISTR that only 4 or 5 units were made. As you can imagine, BBMF had 3 x Mk XIX’s so that would use up three. I think Rolls kept two. Now they have an ex BBMF XIX, all are needed? Pity more are not available as Griffon 58’s are in plentiful supply.
RE: Life doesn’t get much better than this…
Thanx for filling us in Neilly, nice story, nice model. My RC flying is appalling, unfortunately!
RE: Life doesn’t get much better than this…
Go on Neilly….spill the beans…Mossie?
RE: Don’t let him fly it Charlie !!!!!!!!!!!!
I was just being naughty….oh no here come’s my wife…I’m off!!!
RE: Don’t let him fly it Charlie !!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok Philip…..an additional point for the name of the lady , and 10 points for her phone number!!!!
RE: duxfords blackbird
I think AR501 has had a make over sadly (following Pearl Harbor)
RE: duxfords blackbird
I wonder if has stopped leaking fuel yet!?
RE: Yet another Spitfire yawn!
Indeed, terrible shame about Spencer. His Spitfire and Hunter live on with owners ‘across the pond’.
RE: Spencer Flack killed
Spencer Flack did still live in the UK. Flypast did a two part (written by Safir Hemmingway IIRC) on this charismatic, debonair character. Spencer Flack was part of the reason I am so heavily ito warbirds today. The sight of G-Fire and G-HUNT, G-FURY in their beautiful colourscheme certainly got my juices flowing. He raced his Baron (in same colourscheme) and I think reduced his aviation interests following his Fury crash. ISTR he had a share in a Mustang in more recent years (I have a photo of it – Sunny VII rings a bell). His Hunter restoration was one of the first civillian operated Hunters(if not the first).
Spencer, you were a preservation leader and a gentleman – we salute you.