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  • in reply to: Rafale news VI #2504153
    arthuro
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    Some little great news are expected for Rafale in Le Bourget this year :

    The third under-wing weapon station (near to the wingtip) should be shown with Meteor (for UAE) and 68mm rocket launcher (for us).

    That is a very good news ! Can’t wait to see that…Only a month to wait now…Where did you get the info ?

    A meteor or a rocket laucher on this weapon station will boost rafale’s already formidable carrying capabilities if developped…

    I still don’t think that the dropping of Gerfaut and the manoeuvring around the IRST have been adequately explained or justified.

    The explanation that I got from Sagem two years ago was that the AdA facing budget constraints decided that it was not the priority. They think that the level of situation awarness (including long range visual identification with the osf) and the ability of the mica to engage targets off bore sight (it already achieve a kill in its 6 o’clock), from all aspect at comfortable ranges would be sufficient to avoid deadly merges…But to be fair the last rafale pilot I met told that HMS bring interesting capabilities. HMS is a capabilities that should arrive in 2015+ in the AdA if plans are respected. From the AdA perspective (not export) postponing the HMS make sens as they don’t anticipate to face a very dangerous air threat in the coming years…They invested on lgb integration and damocles rather than a hms which make sens operationnaly considering AdA theatre of operations.

    About the price of the mica I can only agree with you but on the other hand we can’t say that there are plenty of dogfights engagements nowadays in the WW2style…So to have a more expensive (I read it was three time the price of a sidwinder) more capable (in terms of range) weapon is not a big issue I think…And given the price of modern fighters…

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2445531
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    a red flag rafale pilot report

    RED FLAG 08-04

    From 9 to 22 August 2008, four-seaters of the Rafale fighter squadron 1 / 7 “Provence” have participated for the first time at the Red Flag exercise at Nellis (Nevada). The exercise myth, which takes place in an environment more realistic, is to be acquired by crews basic reflexes that allow them to survive in combat, day or night.

    Here is the story of a mission carried out at night.

    As usual, some sixty hunters take part in the hostilities that night, with tanker and an AWACS radar aircraft, and under the threat of different systems
    air defense. Patrol 4 rafale I lead a mission to destroy 4 buildings in enemy territory.

    AWACS is the conductor of the mission. Before the push 1, it shall provide all participants an update on the latest ground-and air enemies detected their activity. It also ensures that all hunters are present and, if appropriate, forward it to the MC 2 fall out 3 so that it is modifying its plan of attack. Above all, it transmits via radio that the radar receives from the enemy air activity, the red forces of 4, this initial distribution, somewhat incomprehensible to a non-insider, allows us to visualize mentally the tactical “picture -2 heavy groups, azimuth 20 (pronounced two zero) – North Group bullseye 015 ° / 20Nm/30k (zero-one-five, twenty, thirty thousand ) south-20k … group. ”

    It’s time to go into enemy airspace. Our tour leaves his patrol waiting
    up, down 80m/sol and penetrates into enemy territory to 900 km / h in the complete darkness ! Above us, 12 F15C protect American raid. The air-air capabilities of the Rafale is likely to be sought despite the initial protection.

    With the evolution of enemy fighters, the tactical situation is changing rapidly and we can count on the support of AWACS to send a regular picture. Radio is quickly overloaded. The tension is palpable as he takes particular care to ensure that we avoid any friendly fire in us designating devices well known hostile bandits .. Our system (radar system, EW, link 16, all optronic …) does the rest and allows us to engage the enemy fighters and to evade their shots.

    Once the fighters repelled enemies, we must pursue further to destroy ground targets assigned. This phase is also difficult because, while avoiding the air defense sites that threaten us, it is imperative in delivering weapons to the minute order envelope to ensure safety among hunters (in general, we have a very small margin of 30 seconds on a flight of forty minutes).

    Threatened by an SA-6 detected by the sensors from my Rafale, I’m switching in high load factor and I dropped chaff to fail it. At the same time, a hostile aircraft is taken into account and shot by my No. 2. The patrol managed to slip to the point of dropping the AASM 6 . The bomb parts, we immediately turn around. On return, we are again attacked by enemy fighters protect their borders. Strong Fortunately, the 4 AWACS and F-15C watch over us and repel hostile. We can finally leave the enemy lines and take the cap on Nellis.

    Three hours debriefing we wait, the day would finish at 5 o’clock in the morning!

    http://www.ba113.air.defense.gouv.fr/images/stories/2009/2009%2002%20echo%20113.pdf

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2445702
    arthuro
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    a red flag rafale pilot report

    RED FLAG 08-04

    From 9 to 22 August 2008, four-seaters of the Rafale fighter squadron 1 / 7 “Provence” have participated for the first time at the Red Flag exercise at Nellis (Nevada). The exercise myth, which takes place in an environment more realistic, is to be acquired by crews basic reflexes that allow them to survive in combat, day or night.

    Here is the story of a mission carried out at night.

    As usual, some sixty hunters take part in the hostilities that night, with tanker and an AWACS radar aircraft, and under the threat of different systems
    air defense. Patrol 4 rafale I lead a mission to destroy 4 buildings in enemy territory.

    AWACS is the conductor of the mission. Before the push 1, it shall provide all participants an update on the latest ground-and air enemies detected their activity. It also ensures that all hunters are present and, if appropriate, forward it to the MC 2 fall out 3 so that it is modifying its plan of attack. Above all, it transmits via radio that the radar receives from the enemy air activity, the red forces of 4, this initial distribution, somewhat incomprehensible to a non-insider, allows us to visualize mentally the tactical “picture -2 heavy groups, azimuth 20 (pronounced two zero) – North Group bullseye 015 ° / 20Nm/30k (zero-one-five, twenty, thirty thousand ) south-20k … group. ”

    It’s time to go into enemy airspace. Our tour leaves his patrol waiting
    up, down 80m/sol and penetrates into enemy territory to 900 km / h in the complete darkness ! Above us, 12 F15C protect American raid. The air-air capabilities of the Rafale is likely to be sought despite the initial protection.

    With the evolution of enemy fighters, the tactical situation is changing rapidly and we can count on the support of AWACS to send a regular picture. Radio is quickly overloaded. The tension is palpable as he takes particular care to ensure that we avoid any friendly fire in us designating devices well known hostile bandits .. Our system (radar system, EW, link 16, all optronic …) does the rest and allows us to engage the enemy fighters and to evade their shots.

    Once the fighters repelled enemies, we must pursue further to destroy ground targets assigned. This phase is also difficult because, while avoiding the air defense sites that threaten us, it is imperative in delivering weapons to the minute order envelope to ensure safety among hunters (in general, we have a very small margin of 30 seconds on a flight of forty minutes).

    Threatened by an SA-6 detected by the sensors from my Rafale, I’m switching in high load factor and I dropped chaff to fail it. At the same time, a hostile aircraft is taken into account and shot by my No. 2. The patrol managed to slip to the point of dropping the AASM 6 . The bomb parts, we immediately turn around. On return, we are again attacked by enemy fighters protect their borders. Strong Fortunately, the 4 AWACS and F-15C watch over us and repel hostile. We can finally leave the enemy lines and take the cap on Nellis.

    Three hours debriefing we wait, the day would finish at 5 o’clock in the morning!

    http://www.ba113.air.defense.gouv.fr/images/stories/2009/2009%2002%20echo%20113.pdf

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2446063
    arthuro
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    some news for air&cosmos weekly :

    The AASM kit was tested on 125kg bombs instead of 250kg. The gain in range is significant (almost double) in comparison with the 50km for the 250 kg version. The AASM kit can be fitted on 125, 250 and 500 kg bombs.

    Now the priority is to develop a laser version of the AASM kit and a datalink between the AASM kit and the rafale.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2446484
    arthuro
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    some news for air&cosmos weekly :

    The AASM kit was tested on 125kg bombs instead of 250kg. The gain in range is significant (almost double) in comparison with the 50km for the 250 kg version. The AASM kit can be fitted on 125, 250 and 500 kg bombs.

    Now the priority is to develop a laser version of the AASM kit and a datalink between the AASM kit and the rafale.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2446083
    arthuro
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    beautiful pics !
    here are some others…

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2446502
    arthuro
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    beautiful pics !
    here are some others…

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2452166
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    some news

    Kuwait interested in buying twenty Rafales

    [12/02/09]

    The authorities of Kuwait announced on the occasion of the visit of President Nicolas Sarkozy opened discussion for the purchase of twenty Rafale fighter aircraft of the latest generation of Dassault Aviation. “Between 14 and 28,” said the president, who has set the deadline of these discussions “at the end of the year.” The expression of interest for the French aircraft reflects the desire of Kuwait to upgrade its fighter while its Mirage F1 are nailed to the ground, and that the evolution of its F18 fleet would be at a cost considered too high. A negotiation phase will be opened officially.
    Potential in the Gulf

    The Rafale was also discussed in Oman, visited by Nicolas Sarkozy, as part of a project to replace old Jaguar aircraft by new or used. An opportunity perhaps for the resumption of part of 60 upgraded Mirage 2000 that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) wish to replace with the Rafale. Negotiations between France and the UAE are progressing and could lead this year. But probably not at the inauguration of the future French military base in Abu Dhabi early May, as local authorities do not want to mix the two events.

    Dassault also focus on Switzerland and Brazil (bidding in process). In Greece, the case is less advanced. Is also the case of Libya, but that all depends on the final determination of Colonel Gaddafi …

    http://www.lesechos.fr/info/aero/483…-de-rafale.htm
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    Nicolas Sarkozy proposes the Rafale to Oman
    11/02/2009

    Will Rafale on board the Charles de Gaulle make demo flights for the benefit of the Sultanate of Oman during the future deployment of aircraft carriers in the Indian Ocean? Possible. Visiting the Gulf region yesterday, Nicolas Sarkozy, in any case, the Sultan offered to acquire the aircraft from Dassault Aviation to replace the twenty Jaguar available to the Omani air force. According to the Elysee Palace, France will provide a demonstration of the Rafale in Oman at the request of Sultan Qaboos, reports Reuters.
    To support sales of military equipment, the French army regularly provides assistance to manufacturers. Thus, Rafale Air Force conducted demonstrations in Switzerland, where the French aircraft is competing with the Eurofighter and the Gripen. But the Swiss authorities were also to be hosted this week on the Charles de Gaulle. The naval aviation has indeed been the first to implement the Rafale, in 2001, and currently on the aircraft carrier, a device to F3 standard.
    While maneuvering had already been made from the ship for the benefit of Greece in 2006, the flotilla 12F also conducted recently, a demonstration in front of a delegation.

    http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=109496
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    Brazilian and Swiss officials come to see the Rafale onboard Charles de Gaulle

    11/02/2009

    A delegation of the Swiss Ministry of Defense should be received this week on the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. The building is currently in training off the coast of Toulon, maneuvers which are designed to enable pilots to resume their brands in terms of deck and catapults. The Charles de Gaulle aircraft loads 2 radar Air E-2C Hawkeye, 10 attack aircraft upgraded Super Etendard (SEM) and 6 Rafales, including a standard F3. The Swiss, who wish to renew some of their fighter aircraft, will make their choice between three aircraft, Eurofighter, the Swedish Gripen or Rafale from Dassault Aviation. The French unit, which has not yet succeeded to export, seems well placed in the competition in Switzerland. In addition to demonstrations already conducted for the benefit of the Swiss army, the Swiss will be filled, on board the aircraft carrier the Navy, measure the capacity of the Rafale.
    This visit follows the arrival on board the Charles de Gaulle another potential customer of the Rafale. Two weeks ago, a delegation was also on board. In this market, the aircraft Dassault is also opposed to the Gripen, but also to the American F/A-18. In addition to the modernization of its Air Force, Brazil may also be interested in the Air, which deploys the old equipment (AF-1 Skyhawk). However, as demonstrated on tests made in the late 90s with the prototype (M01) of the French aircraft, the Sao Paulo (ex-Foch) could implement Rafale.
    http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=109464

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2459977
    arthuro
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    a new bomb for the rafale : a 1000kg penetrator with the AASM kit :

    A bomb with bunker-busting teeth in the nose of the weapon has been developed by MBDA to meet the requirements of a potential export customer.

    The teeth have been designed partly to avoid the bomb gliding at the point of contact and partly to crack concrete to help penetrate the target. The bomb has links to the 1960s, when France used a similar concept in an anti-bridge weapon known as the Arcole.

    The new bomb, known as the CMP 1000, was developed in six months to meet the requirements of the export customer, a spokesman for Europe’s leading air weapon builder said.
    The spokesman wouldn’t name the customer, but he said the nation also is interested in the purchase of the Dassault-built Rafale fighter.
    Brazil, India, Libya, Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates are all known to be talking to Dassault about a possible fighter deal.
    The French Ministry of Defense has been briefed on the 1,000-kilogram bomb, but the spokesman said there are no plans at the moment for the Air Force to purchase the weapon.
    The first test of the bomb took place in December at a range near Bordeaux, and development is complete, the company said.
    The weapon, which can be fitted on any aircraft qualified to carry the NATO-standard Mk 84 bomb, is mated with Sagem’s recently developed AASM precision-guided bomb kit.
    In a statement, MBDA said the new bomb body offers penetration and blast capabilities significantly superior to those associated with the standard NATO 2,000-pound penetration bomb.
    “MBDA has used a patented design known as ‘stepped diameters,’ giving the bomb body a similar shape to that of a bottle,” the statement said. “At the front end, the diameter is smaller but the thickness of the metal is increased. The profile facilitates the penetration of the body at the rear, with its larger diameter but reduced metal thickness.”
    The spokesman said, “The weapon is capable of defeating bunkers and other fortifications built around specifications designed to resist the BLU-109,” a hardened penetration bomb.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2460345
    arthuro
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    Just a precision, EADS (namely Jean louis Gallois) left the board of directors (conseil d’admisnistration) of Dassault aviation after the firm entered thales capital. So there are no more EADS administrators and they don’t have a say in the daily dassault’s aviation business management but only during the (assemblée générale) when the numbers are publicated…Ownership and management are to distinct things with precise rules seperating roles in most “big firms”. Well Dassault is perhaps not the best example due to the family run business style…But certainly we will not see a huge “power” of the shareholders outside the family considering the military business industry’s specific corporate governance regulation with strong politaical interventions (cf Dassault’s bid supported by Sarkozy)…
    in this case a shareholder have more weight than others…which is the french government. It has the possibility to grow very quickly in the capital and borrow at low rates on the money market and it is a “very” important customer for the diferent firms involved…In fact EADS CEO was politically appointed to the head of the firm (as he always was in his carrer : SNCF AIRBUS…)

    And we don’t know what are the voting rules liked to the share either (possible to find though…). Are they shares with priority dividends but without voting right ? Can you trade the voting right without the share linked to it …? Or is it simply one share one vote ? And I don’t mention more exotic combinations or firm conventions…

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2475826
    arthuro
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    Let’s put it directly on keypublishing to enrich the “rafale” database !

    The Rafale Omnirole Fighter In 2008: A Success Story

    A Rafale F2 fighter pictured over Afghanistan during its second tour of operations, in the spring of 2008. (French MoD photo)In 2008, the Rafale was qualified in its full omnirole version (Standard F3) and fulfilled the claim that it is a truly omnirole fighter, an aircraft capable of conducting in the same time both air-to-air and air-to-surface tasks during the mission.

    Already an extremely effective new-generation multi-role tactical fighter, development work is continuing apace to exploit more and more of the aircraft’s capabilities, and to add new ones (sensors, weapons). As a result, the Rafale looks set to become even better in the near future.

    In 2008, the combat proven Rafale was again engaged overseas, achieving another successful front-line deployment in Afghanistan and demonstrating its capabilities, as well as its full interoperability, when involved in several international exercises, including two major ones in the United States.

    Overall, the year 2008 was, for the Rafale, a genuine success story and this outstanding fighter aircraft strengthened its formidable reputation among those who have encountered it.

    Final qualification for the full omnirole – Standard F3 – Rafale

    On July 1, 2008, the French defense procurement agency (Délégation Générale pour l’Armement, DGA) qualified the full omnirole version of the Rafale combat aircraft, called “Standard F3”. The first aircraft produced in Standard F3 (Rafale F3) will be delivered to the French forces from the beginning of 2009 onwards. The aircraft previously produced and delivered will be upgraded to the Standard F3 configuration.

    The Standard F2 (Rafale F2), currently in service with the French Air Force (since June 2006) and with the French Navy (since May 2008), already performs air defense missions (with MICA RF/IR air-to-air missiles) and air-to-ground missions (with the SCALP-EG cruise missile, the AASM precision strike weapon, and the GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb).

    The Standard F3 (Rafale F3) adds new capabilities: anti-ship attack (with the AM 39 Exocet missile) and airborne reconnaissance (with the RECO-NG reconnaissance pod), as well as nuclear deterrence (with the ASMP-A missile).

    Improving the operational availability and lowering the Life-Cycle Cost

    Late 2008, the Integrated Maintenance Organization for French MoD Aircraft (Structure Intégrée du Maintien en condition opérationnelle des Matériels Aéronautiques du ministère de la Défense, SIMMAD) awarded to Dassault Aviation a 10-year contract to provide maintenance for all of the equipment within the company’s work scope for the 120 Rafale aircraft ordered – to date – by the French Air Force and Navy.

    This contract marked a key milestone in the operation of the Rafale in the armed forces over the coming years. The objectives of the French forces for the operational availability of the fleet and the reduction of Rafale maintenance costs have been satisfied thanks to a global, long-term maintenance contract based on payment per flying hour, with a commitment by Dassault Aviation to ensure that the amount will be regressive in future years.

    The so-called “Rafale care” contract covers all the functions of the aircraft with the exception of the engine and the radar, countermeasures and weapon systems. Beyond general overhaul and repair activities, “Rafale Care” offers a high-level service which contributes to meeting the availability and cost targets of the armed forces.

    Thales also recently received from the Integrated Maintenance Organization for French MoD Aircraft (SIMMAD) a new 5-year global contract covering the avionics equipment for the French forces aircraft, including the Rafale.

    Previously, in January 2008, the French defense procurement agency (DGA) awarded to Snecma Company (SAFRAN Group) a so-called “TCO Pack” contract (Total Cost of Ownership; “Pack CGP” – Coût Global de Possession) for the M88-2 engine which powers the Rafale aircraft. The TCO Pack contract supports the development and production of upgrades to the M88-2 engine parts, an order for 16 engines and spare parts with long-lead times.

    Upgrades are planned to the high-pressure compressor and high-pressure turbine, and are derived from various technologies tested during a former “ECO” exploratory development program. Qualifications of these modifications and delivery of the first production engine to the TCO Pack standard are scheduled for 2011.

    A key milestone in the phased array RBE2 radar program

    Early November 2008, Thales company announced that its Active Electronically-Scanned Array (AESA) RBE2 radar reached a significant new milestone with the end of its hardware development phase.

    This announcement signals the beginning of the first AESA product delivery phase and the validation of the new software functions, which will further enhance the radar’s capacities. This milestone is the last in a long line of key events that Thales has seen with the development of its state-of-the-art radar. AESA flight tests first began in 2003; the radar’s concepts were validated in 2005; the industrialization phase was launched in 2006; and this final phase saw the end of the development period and the beginning of production of the hardware model. Final validation of software functions is expected to end in the first quarter of 2010 with the delivery of AESA radars to Dassault Aviation.

    Earlier in 2008, the company saw the successful completion of a series of flight tests on the Rafale, giving further positive results of the radar’s performance in an operational configuration.

    Pierre-Yves Chaltiel, Senior Vice President in charge of Thales’ aerospace solutions for government sector, comments: “Thales’ AESA radar is the furthest advanced radar of its kind in Europe. With several years advance on competitor solutions, Thales’ technology is unrivalled and we are extremely proud to be launching the production phase of this cutting-edge radar.”

    In 2006, the French defense procurement agency (DGA) agreed to a so-called “Roadmap” that will deliver Rafale fighter aircraft with a new generation of sensors including the AESA RBE2 radar to the French Air Force and Navy by 2012.

    Full integration of the AESA RBE2 positions the Rafale as the only combat aircraft of its category equipped with active arrays for both its radar and electronic warfare suite. This outstanding system that allows a 360-degree smart antenna array coverage, is a real technological breakthrough on-board the aircraft.

    Thales has been developing its own European advanced AESA radar technology since the 1990s. With its long experience in radar technology for combat aircraft and in Passive Antenna Electronic Scanning functions qualified for the Rafale’s RBE2 radar, Thales has developed AESA radar prototypes and tested them on both Rafale and Hack (Mirage 2000 test bed) aircraft since 2003.

    Infrared terminal guidance version of the AASM successfully completes final qualification firing test

    On July 9, 2008, the French defense procurement agency (DGA) successfully completed the third and last qualification firing test of the infrared terminal guidance version of the AASM modular air-to-ground weapon, developed by Sagem Défense Sécurité (SAFRAN Group).

    This AASM version features an inertial/GPS guidance system identical to that of the qualified “ten-meter class” version (already in operational service and combat proven), and an infrared imager that automatically identifies the target several seconds before impact and corrects the trajectory. This successful test firing is the culmination of qualification tests for this “INS/GPS plus IR” version of the AASM.

    The final firing test was carried out at very low altitude from a range of 16 kilometers. The aim was to hit a target whose coordinates transmitted to the AASM prior to release had been purposely shifted by 80 meters. In other words, this firing test was designed to prove that the infrared terminal guidance AASM could locate and strike its target to within a few meters, in an area with few landmarks that would allow correcting the target trajectory.

    Back to Afghanistan

    From February 8, 2008 through May 31, 2008, three Rafale F2 fighters from French Air Force Squadron 1/7 “Provence”, based at Saint-Dizier (BA 113), were again deployed in combat operations over Afghanistan as part of coalition allied forces.

    The aircraft – three single-seaters Rafale C until April 6, 2008, then replaced by three two-seaters Rafale B – were based at Kandahar in order to meet NATO demands for increased firepower in the southern provinces of Afghanistan.

    During this second tour of operations, the Rafale flew 212 combat missions and logged about 730 flight hours.

    On April 20, 2008, a Rafale B F2 successfully launched two AASM INS/GPS-guided bombs during a combat mission in Afghanistan. The aircraft was patrolling with a Mirage 2000D when a Canadian ground controller called in an air strike to suppress adversary fire. Cloud cover obstructed the fighters from delivering the laser-guided bombs usually called for, so the Rafale dropped (for the first time in wartime conditions) an AASM which destroyed the enemy target. Thirty minutes later, another AASM was successfully fired.

    Onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)

    On May 21, 2008, the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) cooperated with the French Navy, as French Rafale pilots landed on the flight deck to work on their carrier qualifications on U.S. aircraft carriers and to improve the interoperability from a technical point of view. During the exercise, French pilots accumulated six traps with two Rafales (M15 and M17). A third aircraft (M02) completed 13 touch-and-go landings to test how well French planes could handle the stresses of landing on Truman’s flight deck.

    In July 2008, as part of its continuation training program, the French Navy (Flottille 12F) sent six Rafales M F2 to the United States to participate in Joint Task Force EXercise (JTFEX) 2008-4. During this deployment, the Rafales participated in demanding combat training missions, simulating attacks of ground targets with precision weapons, and performing mock air-to-air engagements at long and close ranges.

    On June 26, 2008, the Rafales left their home base in Landivisiau to cross the Atlantic via Santa Maria in the Azores archipelago. During the first two weeks of their deployment, the aircraft were accommodated at Naval Air Station (NAS) Oceana, in Virginia. Numerous training were flown from there with, or against, locally-based U.S. jets. For the whole duration of the exercise, VFA-31 “Tomcatters”, a F/A-18E “Super Hornet” squadron, was the hosting unit for the Flottille 12F. For the French fighter pilots, training with their U.S. counterparts was an excellent opportunity to test new tactics and to verify interoperability.

    The exercise culminated with the deployment of five Rafales M for five days onboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71). Prior to embarking on this U.S. Navy nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, Flottille 12 F pilots performed four simulated field deck landings each (two in daytime and two at night) at NAS Oceana or at nearby Naval Auxiliary Landing Field (NALF) Fentress.

    On July 19, 2008, the first Rafale carrier landing was recorded onboard USS Roosevelt. The first two days onboard were dedicated to carrier qualifications and every pilot had to log ten “traps”, six in daytime and four at night, in order to become fully qualified again. On the very first day, four pilots gained their day and night carrier qualifications, with the other four the following day, an achievement made possible by both the superb handling qualities of the Rafale in the circuit and the size of the USS Roosevelt which allows simultaneous launch and recovery of fighters. The event marks the first integrated U.S. and French carrier qualifications aboard a U.S. aircraft carrier.

    Once fully qualified, French Rafale pilots switched to complex, multinational combat training scenarios. They operated as part of the Roosevelt’s Carrier Air Wing (CVW-8). For mission planning, briefings and debriefings, they shared a ready-room with VFA-31 aircrews.

    “The whole spectrum of combat missions was simulated, from self-escort strike to close air support, and from basic fighter maneuvering to air defense” explained Commander Fabrice Valette, Flottille 12F Commanding Officer. “For strike or close air support scenarios, we simulated attacks with loads of six AASM stand-off, fire-and-forget, modular air-to-surface armaments, or six GBU-12 laser-guided bombs, plus a full-up air-to-air load of MICA radar and infrared-guided missiles,” Valette added.

    In five days, Flottille 12F Rafales logged 93 carrier landings, including 33 at night. The last Rafale was catapulted from the USS Roosevelt on July 23, 2008, and the squadron continued the exercise from NAS Oceana. In Early August, the six Rafales flew across the Atlantic back to Landivisiau Naval Air Station.

    In summary, JTFEX 2008-4 was, for the Rafale, an outstanding success as the aircraft demonstrated, on a large scale, that it can routinely and safely operate, day or night, from a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, far from its traditional support infrastructure. This exercise has proved, once again, that the Rafale has no difficulty blending into a U.S.-led coalition type force.

    Rafale at “Red Flag”

    From July 27 to August 27, 2008, four twin-seaters Rafale fighters from French Air Force Squadron 1/7 “Provence”, based at Saint-Dizier (BA 113), conducted this aircraft’s first operational exercise in the United States. The aim of this trip was to compare the aircraft’s operating experience, especially during foreign deployment missions, with the requirements of weapon systems used by other air forces.

    After a transatlantic ferry flight via the Azores archipelago, and a stopover in Bangor, Maine, the four Rafales B F2 touched down at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona on July 28, 2008.

    At Luke AFB, the exchange with the F-16-equipped 309th Fighter Squadron “Wild Ducks” was very successful, meeting both human and tactical objectives and enabling the crews to get to know each other. Rafale fighters conducted simulated combats with the F-16s.

    According to Captain Matt Spears, a F-16 pilot, “It was an amazing opportunity, and I was very impressed by the capabilities of the Rafale.” Colonel Kurt Neubauer, 56th Fighter Wing commander, said: “It’s the first time that French Air Force Rafales have been deployed to the United States. Training with the French Air Force provided us the invaluable opportunity to learn from each other’s operational experience and improve our combat skills. Working together with France in this capacity is invaluable to enhancing and sharing tactical and operational expertise.”

    Since Luke AFB is the training base for USAF units, all squadrons passing through will learn about the Rafale’s performance capabilities. This should facilitate teamwork during combined operations.

    From August 7 to 22, 2008, the four Rafales operated from Nellis Air Force Base (Nevada) for the Red Flag 08-4 war gaming exercise, involving the air forces of several allied countries.

    The exercise is designed to enhance interoperability. Red Flag simulates situations very close to actual combat, in particular with the use of live munitions for certain “attacks”. In a typical exercise, “Blue Air” (friend) engages “Red Air” (foe) under realistic combat conditions. Each engagement involves forty to sixty aircraft, covering all mission aspects, and focusing on progressive levels and density: different threats, from the least to the most sophisticated; and a theater saturated with surface-to-air and air-to-air threats, pushing aircraft to operate at their limits.

    Deployed solely in the “Blue Air” forces, the Rafales participated in all major missions. Their crews were designated as “mission commanders” of the strike missions several times, thanks to the stand-off, all-weather, capability of the AASM weapons. The French detachment participated in at least one day strike and one night strike daily, for a period of ten days, confirming the aircraft’s complete range of capabilities and its true omnirole design.

    Operating in a dense, hostile environment, the aircraft’s systems provided pilots with a clear, precise view of the tactical situation. The multi-sensor data fusion system (RBE2 radar, Front Sector Optronic: FSO, SPECTRA self-defense suite, Link 16 data link) worked perfectly. Thanks to this system, the Rafale largely proved its self-defense capabilities. It experienced no losses due to air defense systems, and was often able to eliminate these threats.

    Operational scenarios provided for the simultaneous use of MICA EM and IR air-to-air missiles, AASM guided weapons and SCALP-EG cruise missiles. American observers were impressed by the accuracy of the AASM weapon. Each aircraft can simultaneously engage six targets over an extended area, with each bomb having its own ballistics and target coordinates.

    The Rafale fighters used the Link-16 data link network for allied aircraft. This technology ensures Rafale’s interoperability with other weapon systems, in particular for a balanced allocation of firing plans between the different aircraft.

    The French squadron’s logistics information was networked with the home base at Saint-Dizier (BA 113). Two encrypted communications systems, Harpagon and Amasis, sent updated technical data for each aircraft back to France. In fact, throughout the service life of the aircraft, this setup will offer enhanced traceability of all spare parts used. Furthermore, it will decrease maintenance costs because parts will only be changed when strictly necessary.

    Apart from these two major training operations in the United States (“JTFEX 2008-4” and “Red Flag 08-4”), the Rafale also successfully participated, in 2008, to several other international exercises, such as the “Air Defense Week” (Landivisiau Naval Air Station, France, March 31-April 4, 2008), “Frisian Flag 2008” (Leeuwarden air base, the Netherlands, March 31 – April 11, 2008), “Aegean Gust” (Larissa air base, Greece, May 12-16, 2008), and “Tiger Meet 2008 – Ocean Tiger” (Landivisiau Naval Air Station, France, June 23-27, 2008).

    BACKGROUND NOTES

    1. French operational requirements have been set at 294 Rafales. The Air Force will receive 234 aircraft (in two versions: the single-seater Rafale C and the two-seater Rafale B), while the Navy will operate 60 Rafales M (single-seater).

    2. To date, 120 production aircraft have been ordered for both services. The Air Force order covers a total of 82 Rafales (44 Rafales C and 38 Rafales B) and the Navy order is for 38 Rafales M. Under current plans, production of the aircraft is to continue until 2023.

    3. By early January 2009, 64 production aircraft (excluding the development aircraft) have been delivered to the warfighters (25 Rafales M to the French Navy; 7 Rafales C and 32 Rafales B to the French Air Force). A Rafale B (B316) was lost by the French Air Force on December 6, 2007.

    4. The total cost of the Rafale program, including development, pre-production, production and integrated logistical support, amounts to EUR 33,273-million Euro (inclusive of value-added tax) at 2003 prices. This is an increase of just 4.18 percent over the projected cost in 1988, when the original contract was placed. The program is profitable and on schedule, which is rare for most new-generation fighter aircraft that call for the introduction of so many cutting-edge technologies and systems.

    5. A decade before the still-to-come Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, Rafale is the first aircraft to have been designed, from the outset, to take off and land both from land bases and from aircraft carriers. The Rafale will ultimately replace all the current types of fighter aircraft now in the inventory of the French Air Force and the French Navy.

    6. Missions of the Rafale omnirole fighter:
    — air defense and air superiority;
    — close air support;
    — engagement of surface targets (with laser-guided bombs, all-weather stand-off precision weapons, or cruise missiles);
    — anti-ship attack;
    — nuclear strike;
    — real time tactical and strategic reconnaissance (ground and naval targets);
    — in-flight refueling (“buddy-buddy” tanker capability for the French Navy Rafale M).

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2477920
    arthuro
    Participant

    Greg you are very dishonest because the quote is about the f1 (which I already knew) and you just lied till the beginning or you dindn’t make your “job” of analysis. You posted “random” articles in Greek to mislead everyone but the issue is I translated it and these are very good for the rafale F2 instead that you want us to believe.

    You even managed to mislead scooter.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2478144
    arthuro
    Participant

    In any event, arthuro proved that the articles that greg posted do not back up greg’s argument that the block 52+ could hold its own against the Rafale, which is pretty much the whole point that arthuro is making.

    Exactly at the beginning it was my ony point : to prove taht those rumors that the rafale F2 was only marginally superior are wrong. The greek articles provided by greg are in fact very good for the rafale even if no actual results were given.
    I only pointed out that there were a confusion with the rafle F1 story which was deemed as “marginally superior”. taht is it.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2478162
    arthuro
    Participant

    toan,

    I have no issues in believing that the Typhoon outclass the rafale in dogfight as it has a better TW ratio.

    Conversely I don’t believe a word about the alledged superiority of Typhoon’s MMI for several reasons :
    -Firstly the source come from john lake /Jackoniko which (the writer of the report) which is far from being neutral which is problemetic for a journalist in this case. I have never trusted his article considering that he losts all his credibility in childish flame wars in this board or on starstreaK.

    -Secondly I have just under my eyes an article from “air actualité “(december/january2009 p 29) where a belgian pilot which was able to fly in both types back seat stating that rafale’s “MMI are one class above” litteraly. (I must scan the article and post it here in the next days)

    -Thirdly in the various discusion I had with rafale pilots and JPL, one of dassault’s top executive, (june 2007 and october 2008), when I asked what are the points that they were the most satisfied with they unanimously answer (different pilots at different moments) the MMI and the sensor fusion.

    -Last but not least in all the reports from pilots which have flown in the rafale are praising the cokpit and the MMI starting with the greeks and even the british chief of staff Glen thorpy…So the word “vastly superior” or evn superior is more than suspect for me. It is just that the sources that I gathered outweight by far JL’s article.

    Then I said that rafale superiority to the block52 is a “safe bet” considering the facts given in the greek reports even if (I agree wit that, there is no hard evidence with precise results). I mean if a rafale F1 can achieve even “marginal superiority” in the AtA arena then a rafle F2 should do (much) better. So I was cautious.

    Sensor Fusion is not something thats unique to the 5th gen fighters and Eurocanards. The latest F 16s / 18s have sensor fusion which is just as capable or more.

    See this originally posted by scooter in the IAF thread.

    well if it was so common why would pilots praised rafale’s sensor fusion in every reports (notably the latest red flags or the greek report) ?
    I had an interesting discussion with rafale pilots who participated to red flag in october about this subject in paris (I already posted personal pictures of this event in a previous rafale thread). In fact sensor fusion an situational awarness is according to them were the biggest differentiator, even with modern fighter jets like the F15K or the SU30mki. It is something difficult to achieve because it requires sensor integration and the ability to discriminate redundant tracks from different type of sensors.
    As I mentionned above the datafusion is one of the very succesful element of the rafale. It is certainly far more advanced than on any F16, look at the greeks comment. For a SH I honestly don’t know.

    in reply to: Rafale News V #2478386
    arthuro
    Participant

    So we didn’t read the same thing toan, and I don’t think I have failed in anything: when the journalist says the rafale is one generation above that its datafusion gives it a clear edge that the rafale is a force multiplier, that the greek pilots praised the MMI, sensor fusion, situational awarness, spectra, passive identification what else do you need really ??

    I already said that no exact results were given, but knowing that the F1 was already deemed to be marginally superior and considering the very positive stance of the journalists and the greek pilots it is a safe bet that the rafale F2 was superior. let alone the F3 and the F3+.

    You are just dishonnest on this one, please translate both articles and read them and you’ll see.:)

    I am just asking for checkable evidences of the contrary toan…And until now I am the only one providing sources…Greek sources with Greek pilots quoted. I found it unbelievable that you don’t them into account seriously. I know that you like datas and a lot of them are provided in tthe article…It could be interesting for your database really !

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