Boeing Eyes Special Ops, Tanker Applications for Blended-Wing Body
Aviation Week & Space Technology
02/23/2004, page 102
Robert Wall
Orlando, Fla.
Boeing looks to next-generation tanker even as USAF KC-767 deal remains in limbo
Alternative Future
Boeing’s 7E7 has taken the spotlight when it comes to the company’s new designs, but the aerospace giant’s military arm is betting its large-aircraft future on the ultra long-range blended-wing body (BWB).
Unlike the 7E7, the BWB concept isn’t new. Engineers have been working on the unorthodox design for several years, but the effort could be in for a significant boost. Boeing is nearing an agreement with the U.S. Air Force and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to build a large prototype, says George Muellner, who oversees the company’s Air Force activities.
Moreover, the military is considering initiating programs that could launch the BWB. The U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command is starting to seriously discuss replacing its AC-130 gunships and MC-130 Combat Talons. One of the concepts Boeing would take forward is a C-130-size BWB, Muellner suggests.
Boeing is also pushing the BWB concept for a potential air refueling tanker, which would be able to carry massive amounts of fuel and provide two permanent boom refueling stations, rather than one as in the KC-135, KC-10 or KC-767. The BWB tanker would take several years to develop and wouldn’t be available until 2015 or later, Boeing officials are quick to say. They want to dispel the idea that the new aircraft would reduce the near-term need for the Air Force to acquire KC-767s.
While company representatives are most concerned about the near-term tanker contract, the BWB is increasingly being looked on as an important element for Boeing’s long term, particularly in the tanker arena. Boeing doesn’t have any other aircraft to use for that purpose once the 767 line shuts down. To achieve the efficiency goals the company is touting for the 7E7, engineers are making structural trade-offs that mean the airliner can’t be converted into a tanker, according to several Boeing officials.
Boeing’s commercial arm eschews the BWB mainly because its large fuselage provides little or no room for cabin windows and, therefore, is seen as unattractive for passenger transport. The BWB could prove more attractive to freight carriers, which make up a big share of Boeing’s commercial customers.
There has been some notable “creative friction” on this topic for some time between the company’s commercial and military arms. When Boeing Commercial Aircraft representatives were busy talking up the Sonic Cruiser during the 2001 Paris air show, the military operation representatives made clear they thought the BWB concept was more promising. Unlike the Sonic Cruiser, the BWB concept has survived at least tentative exposure to potential customers.
What type of ACMI pod is the IAF using?
Hi Pirate,
Thanks for the valid information on the RSAF & IAF personnel in response to INDIAN.
But I don’t think the ridicule to Indian’s question was called for. It is not unless you are a civilian who is totally into military knowledge that you know what badges, uniforms and stripes mean. You would not expect some Scot farmer up on the rolling highlands to know what the RAF uniforms and stripes mean to him.
Just because some contributor to this thread is from A country, don’t expect them to know whole and soul about his country’s military badges / insignias etc!!! Be tolerant to inquisitiveness … my two cents !
Cheers
Dandpatta
I was just curious how come he doesn’t know, no offence really.
there are some indian origin (tamil) people in singapore defence forces I think, going by the cap insignia is it possible the two ground personnel on right are actually RSAF ?
The 2nd from right is a 1st Sgt from RSAF, the extreme right is from the IAF. You are not from India? Don’t even know your country’s uniform. RSAF personel on overseas detachment must wear the Singapore Flag on the left shoulder.
An airbase in Jaipur, in northern India, has been earmarked for the Republic of Singapore Air Force to carry out its flight training and exercises.
Senior Indian air force official, Air Commodore Rajaguru, says the airbase is a good beginning for more interaction between the two air forces.
Although this is not a permanent facility for the RSAF, the senior official says it can train there on a regularly basis.
Singapore and India are now conducting their first joint air exercise, code named SINDEX 04, at Gwalior, India.
India says the exercise marks the start of a strong and long relationship between both nations.
For the RSAF, it has been an opportunity to operate with the very well established Indian Air Force.
Previously, defence cooperation between the two countries involved mostly their navies. – CNA
SINGAPORE AND INDIA HOLD INAUGURAL BILATERAL AIR EXERCISE
A statement from the Singapore Ministry of Defense and photographs of the exercise.
MINDEF STATEMENT ON ONGOING EXERCISE SINDEX
The Singapore Ministry of Defense issued a statement to clarify an Indian newspaper report on the ongoing Exercise SINDEX.
the MINDEF Spokesman said:
“We can understand why the Indian media would come out with a sensational story like this.
Suppose to be tomorrow’s news but I post it here early for all to read.
CHIEF OF AIR FORCE’S INTRODUCTORY VISIT TO INDIA
Singapore’s Chief of Air Force Major-General (MG) Lim Kim Choon will be visiting New Delhi, Gwalior, Jodhpur and Agra during his introductory visit to India from 24 to 29 Oct 04. MG Lim will also visit the ongoing exercise between the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) and the Indian Air Force (IAF) at Gwalior Air Force Station.
its 612 again. Some photos of it at Ex Western Arc with the pilot wearing DASH HMS
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/691167/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/683651/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/682558/L/
IAF Sukhoi-30MK1 outguns RSAF F-16C
According to the article,
Russian-origin Sukhoi-30MKI jets are apparently outgunning American F-16s on “several aspects” at the ongoing Indo-Singapore air combat exercise in Gwalior.
RSAF F-16 pilots trains at Luke AFB, 56th FW and Cannon AFB, 27th FW. The same group went to France for Exercise Western Arc before going to Gwalior. What is known is that RSAF brought DASH and AIM-9s to france, no python 4 was seen. So did the Indians give a fair fight or is it 12 to 4 like the Eagles and limited BVR shots?
source?
Cracks in tail section force military to ground Cormorant helicopters: report
All but essential flights of Canada’s new Cormorants military helicopters have been grounded because of the discovery of dangerous cracks on a tail rotor, Global News reported Tuesday.
All but essential flights of Canada’s new Cormorants military helicopters have been grounded because of the discovery of dangerous cracks on a tail rotor, Global News reported Tuesday.
IAI to build training jet with US firm
Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. has entered into a joint strategic agreement with Colarodo-based Aviation Technology Group (ATG) for the design, development, and manufacturing of a new combat training jet, IAI said Wednesday. The new combat trainer will be called Javeline AJT (Advanced Jet Trainer).
The U.S. pilots used no active missiles, and the AIM-120 Amraam capability was limited to a 20-naut.-mi. range while keeping the target illuminated when attacking and 18 naut. mi. when defending, as were all the missiles in the exercise.
The aircraft had been to Singapore for another exercise and for the long, six-week jaunt it was decided not to bring along the additional maintenance package needed to support AESA-equipped F-15Cs.
The usaf tactic was to used AESA eagles to do long range bvr shots to reduce the targets. But with such restrictions they can’t use such tactics.
http://s8.invisionfree.com/Military_Nuts/index.php?showtopic=164
The RSAF took the DASH helmet mounted sight to France for Ex Wester Arc. This same group of F-16 Blk 52s will bring the DASH to Ex Sindex as well.