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    from aviation week

    With the Boeing 737-700 increased gross-weight, “you have the floor space [for additional aircrew and equipment] and the antenna real estate,” he says. Antennas have to be placed apart from each other to avoid interference. “For signals intelligence, you don’t want the bomb bay and ASW [anti-submarine warfare] equipment so there is even more weight and space available. With a slick wing–no weapons–and a sigint package, you would have a mission radius of about 1,600 naut. mi. with 4 hr. on station. With its refueling capability [and a supplemented crew], you can go well beyond that. This basic aircraft could fulfill any requirement for persistent [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance].”

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    Will it be as a good at loitering over a long distance at low altitude and slow speed as the P-3 ?
    Just doesn’t seem to be a 737 environment, in my opinion.

    yeap, a tuboprop is better than a turbofan at low altitude, not to mention extra 2 engines but I guess the ability of operating at lower costs and the ability of the platform to develop into an ELINT aircraft to replace the EP-3 sway the Navy over to boeing.

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    The Boeing-led team, which includes CFM International, Northrop Grumman [NYSE: NOC], Raytheon [NYSE: RTN], and Smiths Aerospace [LSE: SMIN.L] will produce seven test aircraft during the program’s System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase. Plans call for up to 109 aircraft to be purchased by the Navy to replace its aging fleet of 223 P-3 aircraft.

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    Aviation Week & Space Technology
    06/14/2004, page 23

    David A. Fulghum
    Washington
    Robert Wall
    Washington

    The MMA decision also has huge implications overseas. Italy is looking to replace its maritime patrol force, and Australian government representatives for several years have closely monitored every evolution of MMA. The U.S. also has committed to assisting Japan with its new maritime patrol aircraft and indigenously designed aircraft. Most assistance would be in the mission suite area, U.S. officials note

    Moreover, several countries are trying to rely increasingly on their commercial suppliers to provide logistics support. For instance, Australia’s Airbus A330 tanker deal hinged in part on the fact that Qantas has the airframe in inventory and can support it. A decision in favor of the 737 could allow something similar when Australia replaces its P-3s. Moreover, the country would garner efficiencies through commonality with its Wedgetail airborne warning and control fleet, one analyst suggests.

    in reply to: Reviving big bombers for the USAF #2643972
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    The B-1B is scheduled to receive the Joint Tactical Radio System, and a small number of aircraft will get Link 16 data links and laptop displays. (Link 16 is an overriding Department of Defense term that describes various Fighter Data Link systems to allow high-capacity, secure data links between fighter aircraft, command and intelligence aircraft, ground stations, and U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force and U.S. Army assets.) The ultimate solution lies in a fully integrated data link, along with a proposed new digital glass flight deck. This will permit “single-picture” displays, in-flight mission planning and real-time overlay of target and threat information.

    in reply to: Reviving big bombers for the USAF #2644851
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    The B-1B community is also looking at reengining, but for a slightly different reason. Recent combat experience has shown the need for higher-altitude performance to put the bomber beyond the reach of all but the largest of surface-to-air missiles. The preferred solution is to use the PW F119 engine that currently powers the F/A-22.

    http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2004/april/cover1.html

    in reply to: F-16E/F aka Block 60 or F-18E/F Super hornet #2670315
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    BTW, did you guys know that the Hornet is the only CTOL plane in the world that can take off from a carrier without the catapult.

    what about the c-130

    Forrestal made history in November 1963 when on the 8th, 21st and 22nd, Lt. James H. Flatley III and his crew members, Lt. Cmdr. “Smokey” Stovall and Aviation Machinist’s Mate (Jets) 1st Class Ed Brennan, made 21 full-stop landings and takeoffs in a C-130F Hercules aboard the ship. The tests were conducted 500 miles out in the North Atlantic off the coast of Massachusetts. In so doing, Forrestal and the C-130 set a record for the largest and heaviest airplane landing on a Navy aircraft carrier. The Navy was trying to determine if the big Hercules could serve as a “Super-COD” — a “Carrier On-board Delivery” aircraft. The problem was there was no aircraft which could provide resupply to a carrier in mid ocean. The Hercules was stable, reliable, and had a long cruising range and high payload.

    The tests were more than successful. At 85,000 pounds, the C-130F came to a complete stop within 267 feet, and at the maximum load, the plane used only 745 feet for take-off. The Navy concluded that with the C-130 Hercules, it would be possible to lift 25,000 pounds of cargo 2,500 miles and land it on a carrier. However, the idea was considered a bit too risky for routine COD operations. The C-2A Greyhound program was developed and the first of these planes became operational in 1965. For his effort, the Navy awarded Lt. Flatley the Distinguished Flying Cross.

    http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv59-forrestal/cv59-forrestal.html

    in reply to: F-16E/F aka Block 60 or F-18E/F Super hornet #2672333
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    F-18E/F
    will use AESA soon
    bought in large quantities (much more than b60 or Rafale, built to be maintained and operated very economically). Two engine safety. already intergrated with most of the A2G inventory in the US, good payload
    however tends to be draggy and slow.

    Block 30 onwards will allow F model to be convert to the EA-18G GROWLER, in future any super hornet strike package will have a growler to company them. you can’t get this on the falcon.

    in reply to: 50 MiG-29SMTs for Algeria? #2672749
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    This news has been floating around since March this year.

    ALGERIA COULD BUY 50 MiG-29s FROM RUSSIA

    MiG ‘Near’ to $1.5Bln Algeria Deal

    in reply to: Brits trying to get rid of Eurofighter? #2672927
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    Official statement from the Singapore Ministry of Defense

    CLARIFICATION OF ERRONEOUS MEDIA REPORTS ON SELECTION OF NEXT GENERATION FIGHTER

    We refer to the reports, ‘Eurofighters headed here’ by STREATS (page 8, 31 May 2004) and ‘UK will be selling 50 Eurofighters to Austria and Singapore’ by Zao Bao (page 19, 31 May 2004).

    Both reports said that Singapore had agreed to buy an unspecified number of the UK’s Eurofighter aircraft. The reports are erroneous. The three shortlisted candidates for our Next Generation Fighter Programme – the F-15T, Rafale and Eurofighter – are still undergoing flight trials and technical evaluation. A decision is not likely until next year.

    in reply to: Reviving big bombers for the USAF #2672943
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    pirate, it does not matter if you fit F-119 to B-1B*. Without moveable inlet you are limet below Mach 2. You can restore it to the old B-1B and it will do. Stealth is much more important than speed. Maybe the new B-1B* can get some “supercruise capability.”
    For me the wing-layout of B-1B, Tu-160 shows more similarity to “Sonicliner” than to B-52.

    Tell that to aviation week. Editor in chief : [email]velocci@aviationweek.com[/email]

    I’m just offering a service.

    in reply to: Reviving big bombers for the USAF #2673433
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    USAF Searches For Vast Global Attack Capability
    Aviation Week & Space Technology
    05/31/2004, page 28

    The service has expressed interest in concepts for an interim capability, possibly a regional bomber, that could start development in 2008. The project would need an initial operational capability by 2015 and full operational capability by 2020.

    BOEING LED ITS OFFERINGS with a B-1R (regional) proposal that would reengine the bomber with the F/A-22’s F-119 engines giving it enough thrust to reach Mach 2.0, but leaving it fuel-efficient enough for a 3,000-mi. mission radius–including a “couple of hours loiter time” over the target at altitudes of up to 60,000 ft. with a single refueling, according to a participant in the study. One version of the aircraft would use radar cross section reducing coatings, a dual-mode (air-to-air and air-to-ground) missile of the Amraam-class with 100-mi. range and the towed decoy and electronic-warfare countermeasures suite developed for the Navy’s F/A-18E Super Hornet. Another would feature an AESA radar and external carriage of AIM-120 Amraam missiles for self defense.

    A second concept from Boeing was a larger D model of the X-45, an unmanned combat aircraft that would be grown from an F-16-sized, containerized vehicle to a long-endurance bomber with delta wings, and a much larger bomb load, that is designed for daily use.

    Lockheed Martin officials said last week that they worked up studies for both one- and two-seat versions of the FB-22, with and without a conventional tail, for their response to the RFI. The larger wing, they contend, would allow enough additional control surfaces to eliminate the horizontal tail while likely retaining both vertical stabilizers, although a completely tailless version is “conceivable,

    in reply to: F/A-22 Secrets Revealed #2678780
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    I did read it, that’s why I said “reading that far”.

    noted

    in reply to: F/A-22 Secrets Revealed #2678810
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    With long-term military budget cuts looming once again, the U.S. Air Force and Lockheed Martin are finally talking about some of the F/A-22 Raptor’s closely held secrets that they hope will keep Congress paying for the $132-million stealth aircraft.

    While these conversations, many of them informal, didn’t touch on “even one-third of its classified capabilities,” according to one pilot, they included the ability to hunt down and destroy cruise missiles well behind enemy lines, the introduction of a new missile that allows the head-on attack and destruction of stealthy enemy missiles, a tailless bomber derivative design, a planned electronic attack capability so powerful that it actually damages enemy electronics, and modifications that would allow the aircraft’s electronic package to invade enemy computer networks.

    The tone of the conversations was sharpened by a still-unreleased report about the series of air combat training engagements earlier this year between Indian air force Su-30MKs and F-15Cs from Elmendorf AFB, Alaska; the latter were equipped with the U.S.’ newest long-range, high-definition radars.

    Those who have read draft copies of the report say the Su-30MKs and F-15 pilots were seeing each other at the same time with their radars, but the Indian pilots were getting off the simulated first shot with their AA-10 Alamo missiles and often winning the long-range engagements. The Indian pilots also had more flight time in the previous year than the U.S. pilots, roughly 300 hr. compared with 250 hr., the pilot said.

    Those factors are causing the U.S. to rethink the formula that they always will be facing less well-trained pilots and inferior weaponry. They also reinforce the argument that the U.S. needs a fighter with greater radar range (the F/A-22’s is more than 100 naut. mi.), stealth (the F-15 has a huge radar cross section) and fused sensors so that pilots can easily grasp what’s going on around them.

    Key to the F/A-22’s capabilities is a complex of passive sensors, basically for electronic surveillance, that line the outside edges of the fighter’s wings and tail surfaces. They gather electronic emissions at frequencies up to 18 GHz., sort them by time and angle of arrival for location, and analyze the signature automatically for rapid identification. Electronic data are fused with detailed RCS signatures gathered by the radar for additional identification.

    HOW MANY F/A-22S the Air Force eventually gets is still a crap shoot. Estimates range from a service requirement for more than 400 to pessimistic predictions of only 100-150 if the congressional budgeters, soured by the growing cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, are unsympathetic.

    A primary mission for the F/A-22 is slated to be cruise missile interception well behind enemy lines. “A cruise missile has stealth in only one direction–straight ahead,” says Lt. Col. Mike Stapleton, operations officer for the 43rd Fighter Sqdn. The F-22s would operate in an extended picket line so they can look at cruise missiles to either side of their patrol area from a beam aspect where the missile is not low-observable. In addition, the new, 200-naut.-mi. AESA radar, in development for the E-10 surveillance aircraft, is to provide key cueing of cruise missile locations.

    Tactics used by cruise missile operators are instructive. One option is to send waves of 10 missiles that would pull defenses to one side while a following wave slips through. Another is to disperse a large launch into many directions so that some actually approach the targets from behind. Those tactics have led the U.S. to plan a multi-layered defense that begins with F-22s deep in enemy territory.

    While F-22s would normally operate at the 45,000-50,000-ft. level, for cruise missile defense they would drop into the middle altitudes around 25,000-30,000 ft. That would allow them the flexibility to combat both AS-4 “Kitchen” or CAS-1 “Kraken”-type, high-speed, air-launched missiles (predictable course, but little time to react) or to pick “Silkworm”-type missiles (low speed, but unpredictable course) out of ground clutter. Detailed information on missiles that leaked through the F/A-22 line would be sent by data link to second and third defensive layers comprising AESA-radar-equipped F-15s and F/A-18Es operating in less well-defended areas.

    Four of the initial seven cadre pilots in the 43nd Fighter Sqdn., the Air Force’s first F/A-22 squadron, came from the AESA-equipped F-15 squadrons in Alaska, where they developed concepts for airborne cruise missile defense, Stapleton says. While F/A-22 crews will train to attack cruise missiles with AIM-9s and 20-mm. cannon, the primary weapon will be the AIM-120C Amraam. A variant, the AIM-120C-6 (available by 2006), has been specialized with an improved seeker to optimize the explosive cone of destruction for small, slow targets in a head-on engagement with the F/A-22. The upgraded Amraam incorporates improved fuzing through a new quadrant target-detection device. One tactic for the F-22s will be to approach a wave of cruise missiles head-on, get in a first shot and then turn at Mach 1.7 supercruise speed for a second and third shot from behind.

    F/A-22S ASSIGNED the cruise missile defense mission would carry at least six Amraams and possibly more when a compressed-carriage AIM-120 design is fielded, says J.R. McDonald, director of Lockheed Martin’s F/A-22 program. The range of the F/A-22 can be extended with two 600-gal., low-observable fuel tanks carried on two inboard hard points that are plumbed to transfer fuel. However, there are a number of concepts for a larger, longer range FB-22 that could also carry a larger weapons payload. McDonald says the weapons bay on either the F/A-22 or FB-22 concepts could be enlarged to carry more missiles. Moreover, because of the improvements in stealth coatings, shaping and RCS predictability, the changes could be made while actually improving the signature of the aircraft, he says.

    Some of the FB-22 derivative concepts being proposed by Lockheed Martin include both one- and two-seat options, with and without a vertical tail, McDonald said. The tailless version would be possible because the wing would be expanded and made large enough to carry sufficient flight control surfaces to provide adequate aerodynamic authority.

    “We have a smorgasbord of options,” McDonald said. The objective is to preserve all the attributes of the F/A-22–stealth, speed, integrated avionics–while giving up a bit of agility in order to field a stable bombing platform. The aircraft would also be designed to control a wide range of unmanned reconnaissance and strike aircraft.

    Most intriguing about the F/A-22’s future were hints from various sources that the fighter would have drastically improved electronic attack capability and would introduce computer network attack to its arsenal. Critics say some of the planning borders on the fanciful. Officials have acknowledged that the F/A-22’s AESA radar has a projected capability to concentrate its transmission power onto a narrow spot–most likely the electronic radars and communication links associated with air defenses–with enough focus to jam them. The Thor jamming system is to be active in 2008. Those working on improvements say that with the addition of radar cheek arrays to the aircraft in 2010, it would be able to focus enough energy in a beam to actually damage electronic components in enemy sensors.

    An associated capability is airborne computer network attack that, under project Suter, currently resides with the EC-130 Compass Call. However, the aircraft is large, slow and can’t penetrate defended airspace. Futurists say a further modified F/A-22 will be able to operate over key targets and carry out computer attack or surveillance with much less power. “If you’re 5 mi. from the threat, you don’t need the power of Compass Call” to penetrate an enemy computer network, says one official.

    in reply to: F/A-22 Secrets Revealed #2678820
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    if you have click the urls and read the article from aviation week, u might have understand it better

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