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Initial order is for two such crafts but total requirement is somewhere around 6 – 8 boats

So far not many details are available about this Fast Attack Craft (Missile)

Few claimed that it is version of Chinese Type-022 boats but so far no confirmation is available

will post pics as soon as they are available

XINGGANG SHIPYARD STARTS CONSTRUCTION OF MISSILE BOAT FOR PAKISTAN NAVY

Xinggang Shipyard of China has started the construction of the first of two missile boats for the Pakistan Navy. Ceremony was attended by the Pakistan Navy’s Vice Admiral Tanveer Faiz Ahmed .

PAKISTAN NAVY TO PURCHASE TWO MISSILE BOATS FROM CHINA

Pakistan Navy has ordered two missile boats from China. First of these missile boats will be manufactured in China and second one will be produced in Pakistan.

These missile boats will carry Chinese guns which will be guided by the radar to ensure the high precision against the targets. No details are available at the moment about the weapon systems to be carried by these boats.

PAKISTAN STARTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF FAST ATTACK MISSILE CRAFT

Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KSEW) has started the construction of the Fast Attack Missile Craft with Chinese help for the Pakistan Navy. Pakistan navy has placed an initial order for two such missile crafts one of which is being produced in China while the second one will be produced at the KSEW under transfer of technology agreement.

recent news articles have stated that PAF may get a J-10 variant that is better than the J-10A, but not that new model with the claimed AESA radar and DSI intakes.

the question is why not? not just J-10s, but tanks as well.. why was Type 96 (at the time) not offered in place of the MBT-2000, or instead of F-22P frigates, a frigate based on the Type054A, etc?

ohhh i think you forgot AEW&C

Is there any statement or reliable source claiming that Pakistan infact wanted to purchase these items in first place?

I have seen many such claims mostly on Chinese defence forums but haven’t been able to find any reliable sources that Pakistan was looking for these products at very early stage in their development given their limited financial resources.

Pakistan navy has recently shown interest in the Type 054 frigate to meet its requirements for 4000+ tone frigate.

Those f-16s seem darn expensive. 83.33 mil for each f-16 ? Lockheed promised f-35 at that price :p How much does zardari make off each one of them 😀

Your guess is as good as mine but Foreign Military Sales packages are less likely to leave open commission deals like French Agosta 90B submarines in 1990s. But then if anybody can do it he is the most likely person, in mid 1990s he was looking for commission worth $200 Million to sign a deal for 32 Mirage 2000-5 for almost $4 Billion. Fortunately for Pakistan Benazir’s Government fell before he could signs the deal.

and that Package for 36 New F-16 Block 52M didn’t includes any weapons

AIM-120C5 AMRAAM, Sidewinder, Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM), Enhanced Paveway GBU-12 etc were purchased under separate deal worth $650 Million.

definitely PS that pic. but as for the info.. do Chinese aviation industry intend to add DSI on everything??

It sure looks like that China is going ahead with DSI for almost every fighter jet.

First JF-17 Thunder, J-10, J-20 and now rumors of JL-9 having DSI.

i was just wondering how would DSI look on J-11Bs:rolleyes:

My mistake.. although then the point is mute because Pakistan is unlikely going to get the J-10s anytime soon. China doesn’t fully trust Pakistan, especially with that heavy US presence.. and especially these days, most of what China sells are things China doesn’t use themselves, but variants of.

China didn’t sell Pakistan KJ-200s or KJ-2000s, they sold them the ZDK-03 which they don’t use themselves
China didn’t sell Pakistan the J-10, they sold them the JF-17, which they don’t use themselves.
No Type 98 or 99 tanks either, Pakistan gets the Type 90-IIM based Al-Khalid.. again something they don’t really use themselves..
No Type054A frigates, but F22P frigates instead.

If PAF ever acquires a heavier fighter or a 5th gen one.. it’ll likely be a new design, designed only PAF use.

My friend either you are simply not aware of developments in Pak-China defense relationship or you are just choosing to ignore them

What ever the case is you are completely wrong in your assessments by miles.

Chinese official allowed Ex-President General Pervez Musharraf was given a detailed briefing and he sat in the cockpit J-10 fighter aircraft in 2006 to promote it to PAF (This was before china even officially admitted the development of J-10).

Time and again it was PAF officials who said that J-10 that they will Purchase J-10 only after it meets Pakistani requirements.

PLA will not give Pakistan the same weapons so its companies make a new (and usually not as advanced) product for Pakistan.

I have yet to see any tangible proof that PLA infact did rejected Pakistani requests.

rumors of PAF J-10s have been going on for years now.

PAF wanted an improved version so its taking time to develop systems to meet Pakistani requirements

Interview: Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed, Chief of the Pakistan Air Force
Defence Weekly
Revealing details of discussions with China for the purchase of 36 J-10 fighter aircraft – which will be known as the FC-20 in Pakistani service – from China, ACM Ahmed said PAF officials had examined the aircraft in detail and the PAF was seeking improvements in its radar and avionics system.

Pakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has himself confirmed that China has agreed to provide FC-20 fighter jet to the Pakistan air force and a loan for the purchase of the Chinese 4400 ton frigates.

Talks for the F-22P started much earlier then the appearance of the Type 054 and F-22P was supposed to be a cheap and quick solution for the Pakistan navy. Pakistan has recently shown interest in the Type 054 and here we are with Chinese offering loans for the purchase (news about the loan arrangement was confirmed by the Pakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar)

Why would Pakistan want KJ-200 as it already have Saab-2000 AEW&C operational, ZDK03 was build according to PAF needs and as far as KJ-2000 is concerned take a look around how may of them PLAAF got 4-5 they dont even have platform for themselves let alone PAF.

Dont forget that PAF choose Saab-2000 over Embraer ERJ 145 because of lower operating cost so what makes you think that PAF wanted KJ-2000?

Pakistan tested M1 Abrams Tank in late 1980 and still didnt placed an order for them so what makes you think that Type 98 or 99 tanks could meet the Pakistani requirements?

Just because a weapon system is in Chinese service dont make it suitable for the needs of Pakistani requirements. This is the one reason we see almost all the Pakistani purchased weapons from China are especially modified to meet Pakistani requirements.

Now coming back to the issue of j-10/FC-20 Pakistani Defense Minister, Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar has himself confirmed that China has agreed to sell it to PAF unless you can provide a official Chinese source with same level of authority your statements have no face value at all.

Thanks for the update and the info!

Yes, that was interesting: 3:0 against tiffys

PS: I think the block IIs are going to be a step up in avionics compared to the bock 52s. With an AESA radar to boot. Looks like the J-20 and J-10B have had a cascading effect.

Yep 3:0 was a kind of news given the big hype of EF-2000 as second best to only F-22, but then again PAF trains in WVR extensively as its BVR capability and training is just starting while that might not be the case with EF-2000 pilots.

So far all we know far sure is that there is order for batch II with advance avionics and rest is rumors yet to be confirmed including news that ASEA and Block II is what PAF going to receive in batch II.

While i will like ASEA and Block II design to be part of batch II thunders, i feel that if it happens it will be a kind of a shocker as we have yet to see the picture of Block II and even J-10B is using (though some call it AESA radar) PESA radar.

I am waiting for ZDK-03 to appear in PAF colors later this year.

Two JF-17s and F-16s are in Turkey for to participating in the 100th Anniversary of Turkish Air Force and Izmir Air Show.