Try Here,
They only got 1 – Hercules and from what I hear she is in pretty bad shape Shes not a regular warship any more probably due to the fact that the UK wont support her. Used mainly for transport
I reflected back on to who has the oldest ship still flying the flag for her country and I can’t go past HMS Victory, Admiral Lord Nelson’s boat that won the battle of Trafalgar 200 years ago. She is still afloat and very much on the active list of the RN.
Ja
Sad to say she isn’t as active as i’d like her to be! What i’d really like to see is the Vic inspecting the fleet at Traf 200 (Yes including the French!) ๐
Phil, the idea that France wanted to bury the programme is ludicrous. They wanted it done their way. So did Britain. If you look at their requirement you can understand why France wanted to do it it’s way. There is no way in hell that the Typhoon design could be optimised for the carrier environment. I’m not trashing Typhoon, but it’s design doesn’t lend itself to carrier ops. Other than that it’s OK. GD tried to sell a navalised F16 back in the ’70s. Obviously it failed- how the hell do you want to catapult an 18 ton plane with THAT intake?:(
Phil,
As much as I hate to say it Puffadders right on this one, Though I think that french avionics leave a lot to be desired, their A/C Designs are sound. I dont think that France have developed any more Supersonic Fighters than the UK. It’s just that more of them reached production (TSR 2 – Say no more)
Also Had the UK gone with the French Design, they wouldn’t be fannying around trying to decide whether to go STOVL, CATOBAR or BOTH wrt CVF ๐ก
Moggy
I may be a little nieve here. But aren’t you pretty much saying ‘Screw the rest of the world, the US of A aint playing no more?
Sorry but NUTS
1/ The US cant stay out of the ME – its the biggest consumer of crude oil in the world.
2/ To become isolationists would be seen by the international community (not to mention the terrorists) as a sign of defeat. No way can the biggest bull ..er kid in the playground be seen to be doing that.
3/ As for list one – when are the states gonna start handing out the ikeeboos to those countries that DID support them in the war?
..dont get me wrong – I still think getting Saddam out was a good idea. but maybe next time Gee Dub’ya might want to take a leaf out of the British book ala Oman. :diablo:
1/ Catwheazle
2/ Department S
3/ The Prisoner
4/ Scooby Doo (With the original Music!)
5/ How
6/ A 3rd series of the new Randall & Hopkirk would be nice
Bonnie Prince Charlie = Gay Italian Non-English (Let alone Gaelic!) Speaking Midget!
…And before you start – i’m from the Highlands
Richard,
The best place to post this is on http://www.pprune.org on the military aviation forum. I dare say some of those guys may even be skulking about there!
Suggs
Buccsociety & Robert Whitton
BZ for the piccies!
I’ll get my dad to look at them he might even know the sailors standing in front of that Bucc!
There are too many RAF Bucc photos here
Too right there mate. The Bucc will ALWAYS be a NAVAL aircraft and Lossie will ALWAYS be HMS Fulmar (To me), and any other service that flew it from there were just keeping the seats warm untill the navy came back ๐
…I wish ๐
The Short answer to this is they don’t – mainly as any efficient communication involves surfacing and potentialy giving your position away. However Very Low Frequency Radio can penetrate water but is very ineffecient for information transfer (75 Baud TG at best) I beleive that for short range contact (Sub-Ship-Sub) they can use some kind of phone which (I think) works on an inductive loop ( A bit like phones for the hard of hearing) but don’t quote me on it.
Transall,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but….
First – Its a 40,000 Ton NUCLEAR Carrier, Going by the way the CVF people are talking – “Air is free and Steel is Cheap” Why build such a small carrier Especially since the French have large enough docks to build CVF.
Second – The freeboard is dangerously Small for carrier ops – Not much good for air ops as you say.
Third – Bad design – especially with respect to the Screw and Shaft.
Fourth – Its had some bad reactor problems in the past.
Fifth – The reply was actually designed to get a rise out of PILOTGHT ๐
Happy New Year
Suggs
1/ One of the RN’s CVs’s will be sold to Austrailia with an Airgroup ๐ฎ
2/ Thialand will get the remaining Shar’s :rolleyes:
3/ Eurofighter will be cut to 180 ๐
4/ The UK will do a deal with the US to swap some of it’s AV8’s for some GR9’s (I wish!) ๐ฎ
4/ The FNS CdeG will still be the object of much hilarity ๐
“Greenie comes to mind and in the old days Sparkie! I’m no expert however……. “
OI! – Thats Navy Speak! :diablo:
It’s such a shame that due to politics Europe developed two aircraft of very similar characteristics, wasting a lot of money in the process (and lagging behind the US)…
Spectral
Your not wrong there. Had we all managed to stay together the Royal Navy and RAF would have a carrier capable Britsh built aircraft which would in turn had led to a joint effort on CVF – all three hulls being equiped for CATOBAR operations. The money saved in Development assesment phases etc would have run into ยฃBillions.
Take it your out of RNR now?
Well out of it mate. I decided to leave when they got rid of the MSF’s (1994) a sad day for the RNR – they lost thier individuality that day. Also when they brought in this OM Trade **** (I knew it wouldn’t work) and then said anyone who was a Weapons Tiff was to Cut over ๐ก AND LOOSE ๐ก Their rank in the process really endeared me to their lordships as well. Needless to say.The whole thing was a Cluster **** and 6 months later they came looking for thier old Artificers to rejoin. By which time I was out of the country. ๐