I would also be rather miffed at the site they took it from. Most sites have watermarking but clearly this site does not. Make sure that when you do upload its to secure sites only.
I dont think the problem is the picture being used but the simple rule of manners that state “if you want something,you should ask for it”
I have had dozens of emails asking if 1 of my shots can be used as a desktop etc and of course it is no benefit nor detriment to me so why not. I have also had Requests from a spanish magazine,I said that they could use the pic if they sent me a copy of the article so i know it is being used in a respectful manner.
Of course i never recieved it and in future i will know.
Recently a German advertising agency asked to use a picture of mine i agreed but for a fee,they are making money from it so too is their client so why not me? They were not willing to pay so i refused permission. This may sound greedy but I was the one who put the work in and yet would be the only 1 not to benefit.Yes,Rob put his shot online for the world to see,but only that. If i go into a car dealership can i drive away with anything on the grounds that the dealer was displaying so therefore i can take?
Exactly what ive been trying to say but people just Don’t Understand.
Thank’s
Rob
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Im not really sure why you want to Bring that Up anyway. Yes it can be classed as theft but for my own personal use, Im not making it available to the Public.
Where and when i want to make my Picture public i will do Hence the reason i upload it to Aviation sites i want it on, NOT Koral Blue Airlines.
Again i stress this is Not about Money or Pride its about Taking something that doesnt belong to them and making a stand for it.
You clearly have your own Opinion and that is fair Enough but im making a stand for those out there that think like me that this is a copyright violation.
When i post an Image on any Aviation Photography site i Dont expect it to be Taken from that site and Put elsewhere without my consent.
As for Depriving People of there Income, I have never or will Never. I Never said I personally download Illegal Material it was just a Point i was making. Im not the bad guy here. Im just trying to keep my work in the places i Know it is thats all.
Moggy i got an email back from a Solicitor In egypt, Koral Blue passed it onto Him and he sent me an email telling me he is working to get me the best results. He also went on to say Egypt have the same Law’s As Trade standards over here.
Rob
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Rob.
You never answered my question as to whether you have ever made a copy of a CD, DVD or Video? If you have it’s just the same as with your photo, taken without permission. And as you so rightly said earlier, theft is theft….
Regards,
kev35
Sorry, i must of missed your question, I have Never made a cd or Dvd (Pirated) In my life but i have viewed them! If i was to re-sale them on the internet if i did do it then id be happy to be called a thief because that is what i would be doing (making available stolen goods) I have however used Sites such as Limewire that often has Illegal Music downloads and should i use that service i use for my own Pleasure Not to Make Public for others to see or use. I completly Get what you are saying but i think it is completly different.
And it is incorrect to say that you do not stand a chance of getting any money, I know of several photographers who have got payments from companies.
Yep, i to have spoken to alot who have had a payout and if im offered it then i shall take it with grace but if i get given an Apologie then that to will be fine. Some people would rather just be lazy and say what the heck but im actually doing it for all the photographers out there that have never thought about doing it. And Hopefully i will get a result to show that No matter what you need to Put your foot down and not let them get away with it.
Rob
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Thank’s Chris,
Completely Understand, and Yes i guess that is the way but Im happy for them to use my photo id just like some credit for it thats all.
So simple Name Request is really all im after but if they just apologize then fair do’s.
But somehow i can’t even see that Happening.
Rob
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Haha! Nope don’t Worry….
I have Not paid for any service’s Nor do i require any Money.
Just to be credited or have my photo removed is all.
Thank’s For that Joey and yes i know about these shark’s and Id Never be stupid enough!
Rob
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Is this Just a geordie Post or can any folk Including us Bristolians Butt in?? :p
Really Nice Post here, Loving the Flybe Shot.
Nice
Rob
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Hahaha @ Sell your Body!
Well we all gotta earn some Mulla somehow :p
Even though as Steve said they are a little grainy we all have to start somewhere and Most of us started with a compact Point and shoot.
You will get there and Hopefully Plenty of Jumbo’s 😀
Keep it Up
Rob
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Thank’s Peedee And Kevin 😀
I got an Email back Today from a Solicitor In Egypt who sounds really Nice and said in the Email he wants to Help me get the Best Results.
He sent me a Little Checklist that i had to Answer and get back to him about the Picture, Dates ETC.
So Fingers crossed its Moving in the Right direction. Again Not in it for the Money Im doing it Because I feel Its the Right thing To do, An apology Or Credit would be Fine 😀
Rob
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Ooh, I don’t know – paint drying has its moments, you know……….
😀 My Sunday Hobby that :p
as for Pornography 😮 Well I guess what goes on Behind closed doors and all that :p
Rob
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Very Nice Shot’s Oz
Rob
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I have read Every single Reply and Am Very thankful for Everyone’s Advice and Knowledge Even though’s that are less Intresting Replies.
I’ve Emailed The Airline (Yesterday) and Now await a reply from the CEO.
Im not doing this for the money as I’ve told them but to Just make them see that Being an Airline Don’t Mean they can Just steal my Photo. Hopefully they will Learn from this And won’t Do it again. I hope all the other Photo’s on there site have Had Permission to use but i doubt it.
From Reading the Replies here In paticular Barry’s (BlackKettle) I know some people Don’t see there Photography as work and just a Hobby but when i Have a photo that i think is Good and Work on it then to me it is Work because i created that Photo from Learning from other Great Photographer’s of which Most have come from this Site.
But its still a hobby that i Love and will continue to love and hope that others will Love my work and if not then that won’t change me as a Photographer and will carry on doing what i Enjoy doing.
As for the picture itself i don’t intend to sell myself short. A Name credit or Email of Apology will be totally fine for me.
As soon as i get a Reply i shall Copy and paste Here
Rob
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Maybe it’s the photographer that is stupid?
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Has the original poster actually contacted the airline, or is complaining here the full extent of the ‘action’ so far?
Im sorry if you feel im complaining But i did think this was an Aviation Discussion Forum which is what im doing.
Im trying to get Advice from People with more Knowledge then i have before i send them a Email.
I don’t Want anyone to use this post as a slanging match but im actually shocked at some peoples View’s.
I have and will always value my photography as a means of work. Like Paul said the same with Music. Whether you do it for a Passion or hobby or for a Career its still work.
I have No issue with ANyone using my work and would always be very happy to allow them to for free. But just taking is a No No in my Book.
Im not a Pro Photographer so yes It may be a Stupid Photo and yes i may be a Stupid Photographer as DCK said but its still My work and my little Joys.
Id just say now to Anyone who wants to try and score points to Think before they post and unless you want to give me some advice like i asked for before please dont reply.
Im very grateful to all that have given me Sound Advice …..
Rob
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stupid Picture …. Charming.
I believe that if we let them get away with it all the time then they will carry on doing it.
I dont have very Much Money but they do so there is No reason for them not to Pay or even Pay someone to email the Photographer and ask Permission.
Its not hard and doesnt take longer then 5 Minutes.
What they have done Is Breached A violation of the Copyright Laws.
Like i said Above i would of been very happy to allow them to use my photo on there website had they asked me if they could.
I dont Appreciate my Work popping up on websites im Not aware about because for me they are my Little Joys! The results from a Hobby I love.
So Hopefully you can see my Point of view.
How many times do we let them keep getting away with it?
Theft Is Theft at the end of the day No matter how big or small the Stolen Item is.
It’s Nice to get rewards from your hobby but Not to be taken advantage of.
Rob
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Hahaha Oz!!
Tbh i think i would come back in plaster 😀
Great Post
Rob
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