Autopsy is in, he died of a massive heart attack..

RIH Mr Milosevic.. you shoulda been more like Berlusconi

yumpin yimminy

talk about the two extremes being mentioned!

my thoughts on the stuff mentioned so far

Large MFDs:
I think waay to much attention and over assumptions have been made on them. As long as they display the same information and function properly, I don’t see the big deal of having 3 large MFDs versus say, over a larger number of smaller displays like on the MKI, Typhoon, etc. It is not necessarily a sign of one airplane being more advance than another. However I do think having 3 large MFDs (especially in a plane that size) makes it look neater than the LCA which looks cluttered. However it is true, the cockpit of the JF-17 is that of a simulator, which may or have yet to been incorporated in the 4th model (the earlier ones I believe are still using analogue equipment), like wise, the LCA might undergo some cockpit changes since it isn’t in production yet either.

Democracy and China:
Some of those criticizing China often criticize it’s lack of democracy and it’s history of crushing freedom, etc. I think those interested in China will acknowledge that China has gone through ALOT of changes in leadership since it’s foundation as the PRC.. more so than any differing changes between the Democrat and Republican leadership in the US. The early days of the PRC were actually decent as people were fed up with warlordism, corruption, etc and the Communists did end alot of it. Food was rationed better and infrastructure was beginning to improve.. while the Chinese back then weren’t rich, the government DID manage to provide some basic subsistence needs like clothing and food.. infact when things started organizing into Danwei communes, lots of things were organized.. everyone had the same boring blue/green outfit and pig was served in many places (even to Muslims), but it did reflect a change in needs from before. Unfortunately things did change a decade or two after Mao made the PRC.. people became zealous and corrupt, there were internal rivalries within the party itself (Mao never really liked Deng and other 2nd generation members much), and Mao’s Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution probably did more damage to China than any of China’s invaders did (damage in terms of culture and loss of lives). However he’s long gone and those who came after him, Deng, Jiang, and Hu, have changed alot of things, such as relaxing several rules, an open market, etc.
If you look at any East Asian country, virtually ALL of them had to develop under undemocratic means.. S.Korea and Thailand required the iron fist of military men like Park Chung Hee, who violated alot of rights, but forced S.Korea to trade with Japan and focus on heavy industries that set Korea where it is today (w/o his dictatorship, Korea would still be blocking Japanese trade and would be an agricultural country).. Singapore and Japan are virtually one party states. Singapore’s gov’t is rooted in a communist rebel group, while the LD party in Japan has had power for who knows how long. Taiwan has only RECENTLY become democratic.. before the 90’s, it was a one party state, with the KMT’s party structure based on that of communist party structures.. Vietnam is following China’s approach towards economic development and will probably be similar to where China is today in a decade or a decade and a half. Democracy doesn’t guarantee wealth, it only guarantees rights. however people have shown that they prioritize wealth and well being over some other rights such as free speech. It ultimately depends what you value, and quite frankly, people have different values. Even in Malaysia where Malay Chinese are a major factor in the economy while Malays are dominant in politics.. you don’t see much friction over this fact (there is friction, but most have largely accepted it).

Tibet and Hawaii:
This is probably where I see two totally opposite opinions on this. Yes indeed Tibet was relatively on its own.. even though it was an on and off vassal or region to Chinese Dynasties, it was only really incorporated into China during the Qing..and only actively controlled during the PRC. While it seems that many resisted the Chinese take over and seeing the Dalai Lama flee as well as a number of Tibetans to India.. Chinese occupation wasn’t all that bad. several of China’s 55 minorities practiced a class system and had slaves, while some may argue that it’s their culture, the CCP eventually ended all of it.. the Tibetans are one example of an ethnic group that did practice slavery which ended with the CCP. While it is true that the Red Guards did destroy a number of Tibetan sites, as well as other minority sites (i.e Mosques, etc).. they also destroyed alot of Han Chinese stuff to, their zealous nature showed no boundaries to ethnic groups as they attacked all, even Deng Xiao Ping’s son who died to them. What is a possible problem for Tibet is how China intends to transform it.. Tibet isn’t a very forgiving land and barley is one of the few things that can grow there.. however the CCP keeps insisting wheat to be grown there, damaging local agriculture and land. Alot of the “modernization” trying to be done there also brings in modern consumption habits.. something the poorer Tibetans (there is a big difference in income between the coastal provinces and inland ones) don’t really need to get into. Some assume developent and capitalism is the only goal for a country.. however some countries such as Bhutan, seem to be well off in it’s simplistic life style and the people better happier that way. So far, Tibet is still pretty much like that.. attempts at populating Tibet with other ethnicities have failed as they all end up moving elsewhere such as Sichuan (no one wants to live in Tibet), and the province is still over 90% Tibetan. The area has no meaningful or practical resources as what few there is, wouldn’t make much profit due to the lack of infrastructure needed to develop it. Other problems include ethnic tension.. you can go anywhere in the world.. people will usually stick to their own kind and while they may tolerate each other, will probably not view too favorably of differing ethnic groups.. Tibet isnt so bad as its relatively homogenous.. Xinjiang is worse.. it was primarily populated by Turkic, Mongol and Xibe minorities with some ethnic Hans and Huis here and there..but after the 70s and 80s, saw a large rise in people from other provinces, which brings them into conflict with those minorities, as well as established Hans. The problems that exist there today are similar to Blacks, Mexicans and whites in the US.. you got one group claiming police and laws discriminate against them due to their ethnicity.. while others seem unwilling to assimilate with each other, thus different cultures sparking conflict.
Hawaii cannot be compared to Tibet (in terms of development).. as some one who lived some time there, where the gov’t and advocate groups make clear everyday of Hawaiian history.. Hawaii showed alot of intentions to become westernized before it was annexed.. they adopted a large number of British systems, from the flag, education system, and even the role of the monarchy.. and had already established diplomatic relations with foreign nations and active in modernizing the country. Unlike Tibet that was a relatively isolated and introverted theocracy showing very little interest in “modernizing” and seeking the needs of modern life styles.

Chinese and Indian aviation industries:
its pretty clear that the Chinese arms industry in general, has beem more active in producing indigenous weapons and is quite diverse in what they’re making.. even though a number of their designs are based on existing Russian and French designs.. several of the designs being very simple and modest in their goals. India’s appears to be very very ambitious and like their American counterparts, plagued with red tape and political controversey. China, for the most part, has had to develop things on their own with Russia, French and the US limiting their sales between the 70s-90s.. which helped allow them to look inwards for designs.. India has always had freer access to weapons, and thus, wasn’t forced like China, to look domestically.

These are the new FC-1 cockpits. 3 8″x12″ colored MFDs with 20 buttons each. Maybe you can refresh my mind about the LCA and MKI cockpits.

are those new MFDs Russian or domestic? they kind of remind me the ones you see in the new Russian aircraft upgrades (that most likely won’t be produced)

Hello guys..

I got this model of MiG-17 Fresco, built by a friend of mine 11 years ago. I would like to know what the transcriptions on the plane mean.. Can anyone resolve?

Let me remind you that the guy does not speak or write Chinese so some characters may be just wrong..

Thanks in advance for your help

Flex

not Chinese, but I took some Japanese in college (which uses Chinese characters).. and I can tell you straight off that it looks like your friend invented most of the characters on his own to make it look like something.

Loud, fast, and heavily distorted. Along the lines of Megadeth and Carcass.

ah Death metal, you must come to Scandinavia.. its the only place left in the world where Death Metal bands can get chicks 😮

Why would they want to stay behind the times? If everybody bails on JSF they ought to at least begin their own stealth aircraft program.

what is there to justify Norway in keeping with the times? Surely not the bad Russians or worse, the Evil imperialistic Swedes 😮

Now, the Augusta Mangusta attack helo is an interesting product that has no equivalent on the Chinese sales list.

not yet at least.. 😀 :p

one reason why they should reconsider the Eurofighter Typhoon