^couldnt the Mi-28 be configured to fire the Vikhr too?
unfortunately I don’t see anything đ I’m pretty curious
maybe they just meant 5.8 billion ==> $80 mil a plane which is a reasonable sum.
$800 mil is way too high even in the future upg, weapons and training scenario.
yeah I was thinking that.. they must have misplaced the decimal. At first I thought it was $80 mill and Sferrin miscaculated but it was 800.. waay too much.. even if their relationship is that good… there’s just much cheaper alternatives if that was the case.
$80 mill with training, spares and weapons is a moderate price. I believe around the same price as late variant F-16?
Congratulations, the both of you are banned!
lol both? who is the other?
I would still prefer the Ka-52 , Its sleeker,stelthy, more agile a good one for the 21st Century.
The Mi-28N can probably take more hits and survive
the question is, how significant is the Hokum’s advantages? I mean it does look sleeker and maybe stealthier..but in the end it’s still a helicopter with large detectable rotors and faces the same vunerability other attack helicopters face.
I read that its dual rotor allows it to survive when it’s **** gets blown off.. but how often is that a cause of helicopter loss in combat? I’m not too sure.
after seeing the Apache’s performance in Iraq and Kosovo, it seems that it face a signifcant chance of being damaged/taken out.. and if that’s the case, I think I’d take the better armored Mi-28.. and most importantly that it’s cheaper (if GarryB is correct). Price is also an important factor when investing in an aircraft that has a higher rate of being damaged in a war zone.
Berlusconi – now – but what will Iran be operating in 10 years?
[Edit] Damn you, Big Vern! Beat me to it. đĄ
the way they’re going, a reverse engineered F-4 with 5 tails and canards.
They want something C:cool::cool:L that will kick the C:dev2::dev2:P out of an Iranian Flanker or an Israeli Eagle, The F-22 would be their preferred choice, but it is not for export sale, and if it was they would not be allowed to operate it were they liked. (Plus a good chance its because the British do a good line in bribes :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: ). I wonder how this will effect the RAF orders and the final rundown of the Jaguar Fleet?
they’d have some trouble taking out an Iranian Flanker because it doesn’t exist.
The ADD has been the main pusher of this ridiculous concept and a department of the ROKAF called ęłľęľ°ě íŹë°ě ë¨ (Air Force Warfare Development Group?) is siding with them. Many officers of the department who fly desks, not fighters, end up working for the ADD and KAI, a company only good at simple assembly work, after leaving the service and they have an interest to create works for the ADD and KAI to secure their own future employment.
Anyway, the overall ROKAF’s interest in the KFX is lukewarm at best. I wonder where the money for this KFX can be found – the ROKAF even gave up upgrading 140 F-16C/D Block 52s due to lack of funds. Our F-16s will most probably slowly become obsolescent without receiving any significant upgrade.
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Sunho
sounds reasonable. These days when fighter programs with massive budget requirements to the point that even France will probably not go at it alone for their 5th generation project.
I think it’ll be more reasonable if they focused on stealthy UCAVs instead.
Sorry to tell you this, but this is more about Japan. Japan is making more unilateral moves to claim and occupy disputed territories it has with China and the two Koreas. China, on the other hand, is signing joint ventures with other countries on islands that are disputed. You don’t hear a peep from China about South Korea’s high-tech military buildup in recent years. Afterall the two have a mutual economic relationship.
I predict that with all the paranoid attention over China you guys have, South Korea will go unnoticed and become a more dynamic prosperous nation than Japan has ever been which will spur ultra-nationalism in Japan and cause a huge headache for the US. Now a strong South Korea against Japan is a good thing.
uh oh, some one brought out a nationalist
I seen the 201 model being pretty common.
so how much American input will we find in this fighter?
I think he’s talking percentages…as in what percentage do the other NATO nations contribute in terms of military forces in a military operation.
I wonder how much life the carrier has in it. If it has a good number of years left maybe France could take it instead of building a second deck?
Here’s a more amusing concept…sell it to Greece :diablo:
and get the Turks mad? đ
besides, they got a jillion islands and half islands that could be turned into “carriers”.
hmm so at the moment, I’m guessing the UK has been the only non-US country that has sucessfully built something close to a 5th generation fighter (in American terms), with the Replica.. even though it was non flying.
Because there are not 111 An-124s. Because the US cannot be beholden to another nation or commercial interest to move the level of stores they require.
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the most sensible thing said in regards to it. Airframe wise, most of the older ones only have a projected service life of 7,500 flight hours, although the newer ones have improved much.
We are having teething problems with them yes, for some reason they aren’t performing as expected (And these are the machines from France). Our own built ones are not suffering at all. Mind you only two examples of the Aussie built ones have finished their tests and been accepted (005 and 006), others are working their way through the program now.
Oh and Beleg, mate down here we use $, not ⏠đ
perhaps the French companies are trying to screw you guys over with shoddier parts? :dev2: just kidding there.
how do you find all this info anyways?
are they going to resell the F1s elsewhere?