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  • in reply to: Lurking in the brambles! #1287549
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    Flew in this Magister on 21st September 1958, when it was Shoreham based and remember it going to Elwyn (Mac) McAully around the following February.
    Sadly he was killed during aerobatic practice at Little Snoring on 12th May 1960 in ‘The Bishop’ Tiger Moth G-APDZ – the aircraft he had previously flown inverted across The English Channel.

    So strictly speaking I believe it was never operated by the McAully Flying Group as the group was not named as such until after his death and the Magister was withdrawn from use in April 1960.

    In any event it was finally scrapped at Woolsington that November. Presumably it was sold and flew up there?

    Interestingly it was this aircraft, which featured (as L8160) on the cover of ‘The Miles Magister’ booklet by G H R Johnson, produced by the Newark Air Museum a few years back.

    Wicked Willip :diablo:

    If the photo was taken of the Magister in the primary school playground at Little Snoring then, having regard to the condition illustrated, how did it manage to get to Newcastle to be scrapped there? This photo does not suggest flight as a possibility! Also how is this to be reconciled with the statement, in the earlier post, that it survived at Little Snoring until it was scrapped there in 1963 (although another post puts its demise as being at Little Snoring in 1960)? Perhaps the location of the photo was not Little Snoring Primary School. Maybe the photo was taken at a location much further north. So do we have another mystery waiting to be solved by someone with information that has yet to be introduced into the forum? I only wish that I could remember from where I obtained that photo. That might shed a little more light on this apparent mystery.

    in reply to: Of legends rumours and urban myths #1287958
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    Urban myths, doncha luv em!

    Well how about the Whitley fuselage that was at Sherford in Devon; or the Stirling in the bog at Thetford; or the derelict Ju.52/3m out in the wilds at the Gap of Dunloe, Ireland; or the Lysander standing in the open at Carlow; or the two Vikings in the gravel pit at Bedfont; or the slightly singed remains of a Fairey IIIF at Dereham; or even the pre-WW2 gliders stored in a barn somewhere in the Prescelly mountains in Wales!

    Its amazing the sources of stories that you can find if you scan through the first and second editions of W&R!

    in reply to: Geminis and/or Messengers at Lympne in the 1960s #1289880
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    Ah, if only my surviving records were more informative! They just record the registration, type and operator. As to the latter, my records indicate that the operators were Continental Air Services (G-AIKN) and Epicair (G-AJBX). There is no operator indicated against G-AHPE. As to their locations, I don’t think that I first visited Blackbushe before 1974 – so I suspect that any Vikings would have disappeared from there long before that date. Southend would seem to be a better bet – I remember my mother taking me there, to visit the BHAM, in the late 1960s or early 1970s. However I find myself wondering whether one of those Vikings was the one which served (or, more accurately, was torched by) the Fire Service at Gatwick in the late 1960s? Any ideas, anyone?

    in reply to: Geminis and/or Messengers at Lympne in the 1960s #1291053
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    I think that, finally, I may have answered my own question. Having spent some hours raising dust in my attic, I have come across a file containing a compilation of information from, I think, my earliest note books (which, I suspect, have long since gone the way of all flesh!). This records only three Geminis seen by me which, at the time, were not on a current register. Two of those were G-AHKL and G-AKEM – which suggests to me that they were the Lympne pair which I recollect seeing in dismembered form! The third was G-AJOJ which, I suspect, I must have seen at either Shoreham or Ford. So unless someone can come up with a photo of the Lympne Geminis, this is the end of this thread (except the same record in that file contains reference to three Vikings, G-AHPE, G-AIKN and G-AJBX – does anyone have any idea of where I might have seen those?).

    in reply to: Lurking in the brambles! #1292380
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    Hmmm, looking at the size and state of the junior school playground just down the river from where I live, I reckon you could land and take off a Storch or Lysander from there, the local residents wouldn’t be impressed but I bet the kids would!!!!!
    I’m going to take the dogs for a walk now and pace it out.
    Could be an interesting new thread, pictures of a/c landing on school playing fields.
    The amount of playing fields around my old Grammar school in Nottingham made me think that anything could have landed there, in fact every spring, the late lamented Rolls Royce Spitfire used to take off from Hucknall and carry out his shakedowns over the school, not good for concentrating on lessons but was it because he had somewhere to land in case of trouble, our two back to back Rugby pitches with further cricket, football and hockey pitches would have been perfect, who’s going to get the book out on pitch sizes and work that one out.
    Sorry to sabotage the thread.

    Nowadays, you would be hard pressed to put a helicopter down on the “recreation areas” of most schools. But then, why have playing fields when you can build houses on them and most games can be “played” within the 17 x 17 inch area of a PC monitor! But that’s another thread entirely and not one appropriate to this site. I’ll go away and look through my old note books for details of real “bramble lurkers” that I have come across in the past.

    in reply to: Mirror, mirror on the wall ……………….. #1293008
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    How about the Waitomo PL-12 Airtruck?
    (more pics of it at http://rnzaf.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=civil&action=display&thread=1187402619 )

    http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m169/flyernzl/airtruks/ZK-CKEc.jpg

    Now that makes the Auster Agricola look pretty! The Airtruck reminds me a bit of the aircraft in the film – ‘The Flight of the Phoenix’ – where a Fairchild Packet (?) crashes in the desert and the crew make an “escape” aircraft out of one engine, the wings and other salvaged bits and pieces. Was a full size version of the “escape” aircraft actually constructed on the film lot and/or location? I assume that any flying shots were of a model.

    in reply to: Post WW2 impressed aircraft sales #1293571
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    Well, it looks as if I will have to call it a day and turn elsewhere for leads to enable me to pursue this line of enquiry. But thanks to all who have input to this thread! A bientôt à tous!

    in reply to: Geminis and/or Messengers at Lympne in the 1960s #1293579
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    …………………..and still no-one has a photo of the Geminis that they want to post!

    in reply to: Lurking in the brambles! #1293584
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    So it looks as if there is nothing left in the brambles – or no-one who wants to tell about what they found there!

    in reply to: Mirror, mirror on the wall ……………….. #1293590
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    Suits you sir!

    I know that it’s not really what this thread started out as being about, but having looked at the photo of the GAL.38, I found myself wondering what posters think to be the ugliest aircraft that they have ever seen. I think that you would have to go a long way to beat the Salmon Tandem Monoplane (G-EBHQ)(q.v. Jackson, ‘British Civil Aircraft’ (1974), vol.III, p.289). Can anyone beat that?

    in reply to: Mirror, mirror on the wall ……………….. #1294620
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    Umm . . to restrain the thread, the original question was “what is the most beautiful civil aircraft that I have photographed?” This would eliminate anything not photographed by the poster himself/herself?

    You’re right! I adopted the particular approach to restrain myself from posting photos of the Miles Hobby, the De Havilland T.K.4 or the Heston Type 5 Racer. But I can’t complain at having to look at the photographs posted!

    in reply to: Lurking in the brambles! #1298501
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    Can anybody tell me how my Luton Minor was allowed to fly with its registration incorrect. Has anyone else spotted that there is no dash between G and A.

    Dave

    You’re right. There is no dash between the G and the A. Having taken a closer look at the original photo, it also appears as if the registration mark was applied by a less than steady hand using Dulux emulsion paint! The date of the photo is 9 July 1978, if that helps anyone to find an answer to your question.

    in reply to: Scrapyard Photos; Any More? #1299271
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    Anybody have any information or photos of the Staravia scrap at Keevil in the 70’s / 80’s?

    I flew gliders from there in 1977. Unfortunately I have photos only of the Auster 6 glider tugs. However my memory is that there were only drop tanks -loads of them – there at that time.

    in reply to: French Flying Nord Noratlas #1299759
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    I don’t know if it is of any assistance, but there is a Noratlas at Nantes. However I don’t believe that it is airworthy. It used to live on the apron in front of the GA hangars but recently has been moved to the area of the old hangar on the far side of the runway where it keeps company with an ex Air France Constellation. Try going to the Nantes airport website (i’ll try to check this and post it later) and see if it has an e-mail link to enable you to ask about the ownership of the Noratlas. That might help you to further your enquiry.

    The website address for Nantes airport is www/nantes.aeroport.fr

    in reply to: French Flying Nord Noratlas #1299973
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    I don’t know if it is of any assistance, but there is a Noratlas at Nantes. However I don’t believe that it is airworthy. It used to live on the apron in front of the GA hangars but recently has been moved to the area of the old hangar on the far side of the runway where it keeps company with an ex Air France Constellation. Try going to the Nantes airport website (i’ll try to check this and post it later) and see if it has an e-mail link to enable you to ask about the ownership of the Noratlas. That might help you to further your enquiry.

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