And before you say ‘monoplane’ TexanTomcat. We’ve only got two decent wings for ours!!
BE-2c, in anti-Zeppelin mode, Bod?
Congratulations to anyone who battled those winds, and seemingly pulled off nice three-pointers too.
As a certified ‘chicken’, I’m afraid the Luton stayed in its nice dry hangar at Bicester.
Respect!! Particularly Alan Hartfield in the Dart!
Luton Major G-ASWH is still registered, so presume it must still have a Permit, although I am unaware of its location or status. Last Major I saw was G-BCKP at the PFA Rally at Wroughton in 1992, but it’s no longer on the register. Last Minor sighting was G-AXGR at Badminton in 1988, although I may have tripped over one in my haste to photograph something more substantial ( no offence to Minors!)
Sadly G-ASWH was deregistered by the CAA in 2001, last heard of in Pontypool in darkest Wales.
Happily G-AXGR is in fine fettle. After selling me G-ASML, Barbara Schlussler did a great job of returning ‘Romeo’ to pristine condition in Linclonshire and has now even persuaded the JAP J99 to bang away on both cylinders at (approximately) the same time.
I gather that all she’s waiting for at the moment is for the PFA to ‘expedite’ their backlog of permit to test applications!
Thanks Albert, that clears up a few of my queries
errr…Steve actually. But have been known to change my name if free food or beer is offered!
Exactly the question I was about to ask. Are you sure the Bev was about to pile in? They were quite capable of turns like that but their roll rate meant that it took about 3 days to achieve that angle of bank 🙂
This thread has prompted me to ask a few questions
1) How many were built worldwide approx?
2) How many are still flying?
3) Are plans still available?
4) haas anyone thought about trying more modern engines, Rotax, Jabiru etc.?
5) What happened to its big brother the Luton Major?
Hi Mike, back again – well, its Friday afternoon and too windy to fly!
In answer to your questions:
As far as I know there are around 60-70 ‘projects’ world-wide. 46 were registered in the UK of which 30 remain current, although some are clrearly not currently airworthy (like G-AFIR below, sorry Arthur!). There are two registered in the US although one of those is hanging above the security check are in Miami International Airport, there are also flying examples in Australia and New Zealand.
Yes, the plans are still available £70 from the Popular Flying Association. http://www.pfa.org.uk
From memory, these plans are still for the VW-engined LA4A model, but no doubt Mr Donaldson and the team would approve a suitable design mod for a Rotax or Jabiru. I seem to recollect that Arthur Ord-Hume has already sketched out a design for an update!
Sadly there aren’t any two-seat Luton LA-5 Majors airworthy in the UK. Its a pity because they are very pretty aeroplanes, but someone once told me there was an issue over the stressing of wing mountings. It seems there are still flying examples in Switzerland and Australia, which still seem to have a full complement of feathers. Anyone else have any more info?
Exactly the question I was about to ask. Are you sure the Bev was about to pile in? They were quite capable of turns like that but their roll rate meant that it took about 3 days to achieve that angle of bank 🙂
The roll rate sounds a bit like the Luton, although I guess the control forces are a little higher in the Beverley!
I think the picture was a Benson ‘At Home’, although I’ll bow to local knowledge of the treeline if anyone knows better?
Haven’t got any more pictures with the Beverley in the background, but here a few more of Lutons cluttering the foreground in front of more interesting/intriguing types!
We should be congratulating all concerned on getting to the final stages of the biggest civilian aircraft restoration project ever.
If you don’t realise the scale of the challenge, just walk into the hangar at Bruntingthorpe and figure out where YOU would start!
And don’t forget the CAA rule. No aeroplane can fly till the weight of paperwork exceeds the take-off weight of the aeroplane! Those guys from Marshalls will have they’re work cut out!
Another four from me:
G-ASAA at Sywell July 1976
G-AXGR at Badminton 24 April 1988
G-BCFY at Popham 9 Sept 1979 (I watched this being built at RAF Lyneham!)
G-AXKH at Old Warden 22 May 1977There, I’ll bet you didn’t expect to see such a response on this thread!
You probably thought it would be a minor posting :p
You’re right, I’m amazed. Thanks everybody for the postings. It’s only a little aeroplane, but its got its place in history – and its just as much fun as the big noisy ones!!
Love the Luton Meinherr too. But no amount of persuading will get me to repaint ‘ML like that!
Thanks Maarvin. Looks like ‘CY gets about a bit!
ALthough there are no Heyfords that I can find, it’s worth looking at http://www.britishpathe.com and searching their newsreel database.
They have free low-definition downloads of Hendon pageants, including the tied together aeros by Hawker Hinds (or Harts) and sadly, the mid-air referred to above.
The British Pathe website is a brilliant resource, but a warning. If you get into it, like me you’ll be there all afternoon!
Thanks Propstrike, but yes I’ve got “Fright on Flailing Wings” thankyou -also “On Hume-Made Wings” too, if you want to borrow it.
Sadly work commitments prevent me from getting over to G-VFWE with the Luton, I’ve given my ‘slot’ back as I gather they’re over-subscribed.
Thanks too, Albert. I think that’s one of the earliest pictures I’ve seen of ‘ML. It an interesting contrast to John DM’s picture from Sywell last year!
Thanks to everyone for the piccies so far. Look forward to seeing any others you might dig out!
Hmmm. I guess we’ve discounted all the obvious ones like a Heath or Pietenpol and its not Latimer Needham’s ‘Halton Minus’ design which predated the Luton.
It does have the look of Pietenpol struts and Bernie Pietenpol did build an earlier, smaller design before the Aircamper.
Could it be two enterprising chaps blowing their post-RFC demob money on a design inspired by either Pietenpol or Latimer Needham?
Maybe I should stop being so tight and spend £70 on Arthur Ord-Hume’s book British Light Aircraft – but I can fly the Luton for a month for the same amount!
In ‘Sigh for a Merlin’ Alex Henshaw talks about barrel rolling Lancasters on test flights, then reducing the ‘g’ until his flight engineer was floating weightless around the cockpit!!
Funny you should ask, I posted this one on the Luton Minor thread last night!
Taken (I think) at a Heathrow RAeS Garden Party, when this was the last surviving Express. It was owned by Viv Bellamy and the Hampshire Aeroplane Club as a kind of club minibus!
Sadly it was destroyed in Spain, when the airport authorities broke its mainspar, while recovering it off the runway with a flat tyre!