BTW, that’s not a Pakistani FC-1 but a Pakistani F-7PG. Please note the double-delta wing.

could’nt care less for what model it is, but it is Paaki.. 😀 how could u slip up so big GoldenDragon ?

Of course India didn’t. If you build an aircraft that is still owned by someone else then you can’t sell it. China doesn’t have that problem. Chinese aircraft are made in China and China sells them. India simply didn’t and doesn’t have anything sellable.

of course, we’ll conveniently forget that the original designs for ALL CHinese aircraft are foreign and have been either stolen or reverse engineered..how ORIGINAL !

Chinese aircraft like the J-7 or Y-12 and any of the dozen or so export models made in China are owned by China. No embargo can stop the J-7 from being produced because all the parts are made in China.

you proudly claim that the J-7 is Chinese when its nothing other than a rehash of a MiG-21..same with the Y-12..obviously stealing/reverse engineering without permission and selling as your own design is a Chinese art..

Licensed built, the Z-9 is one of those aircraft where China created as a joint venture with EuroCopter. If China “xeroxed” it, Eurocopter wouldn’t be continuing with five other projects in China.

And it has sold and will sel more in the futurel, unlike the Dhruv. Unlike the Dhruv, the Z-9 fleet won’t be grounded because of a foreign part.

ya right ! Joint venture huh ? why not be honest and call it what it really is ? a rip off ? and the only reason Eurocopter will come back to get its products “joint ventured” with the Chinese is coz it makes economic sense to be a part of the “joint venture”//else the Chinese will anyway simply steal designs/reverse engineer it and Eurocopter wont get a penny out of it..

My first post was actually to a fellow Chinese, TinWing, stating in no uncertain terms that his thread is nothing but a flamebait since there is no comparison between India and China. There is no connection and no relevancy between the two of them.

a view that you and only you have.. 😀 and if others share it, well ignore India at your won peril// 😉

Actually, my attitude is that of a Chinese, mainland or otherwise. I’m as proud of Taiwan and Hong Kong as I’m of China.

Taiwan is NOT Chinese..so dont link it to ur stupid ego. The Taiwanese that I’ve met out here in the US are vehemently opposed to “unification” bull****. if you do end up swallowing it, dont go around claiming its coz u “love” Taiwan.

Face it. For too long, Indians here were able to get away with these idiotic insults like “drones” and “clones” and “communist propagandists” because many of the Chinese here simply ignored it.

I find it distasteful that a people who have nothing to crow about not only insults the Chinese but also Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans as “tinpot dictatorships” and “incompetents” just because they buy Chinese aircraft.

This is’nt something that Indians came up with :rolleyes: ..its something that the Western media started and we all happen to know that its true, so we use it as well..if you dont like it, go cry in a corner. we could’nt care a fig for your percieved insults. 😀

Everyone else at least acknowledges that they buy Chinese aircraft becos its easy on their pockets or in some cases, cos they have no other options. given a choice between Western or Russian armament and Chinese, no sane person would pick the Chinese.

Actually, I find that even more disturbing. I can partially understand the hatred of China because of jealousy and misplaced rivalry. But insulting people just because they bought Chinese aircraft is indicative of deep and bizarre hatred. Hating not only your (imagined) rival but also all of his friends :rolleyes:

Now where were you when your friends were calling us “drones” and “clones” and using stupid little insults like “Oracle” for Pakistanis :rolleyes:

And don’t insult Pakistan, Zimbabwe, Sir Lanka and other buyers just because they bought Chinese. If you do that, then you better answer what makes India better than them when Indians are among the poorest and most desperate peoples in the world.

I think its Astra

The quote above is from interview with M. Natarajan, the DRDO chief and the scientific advisor to the defence minister published in Force magazine

the Astra’s quoted range is more like 70 kms, not 10 kms.

So what have you been smoking, Tom? :rolleyes:

ignore Vick ignore…another misinformed/ignorant American teen who thinks that the Asians are **** poor..

Indian bureaucracy is notorious for its never-ending paperwork and red tapism..no reason why this deal woud’nt be plagued by the same.

boohoo !!!:( the IAF will lose its prettiest jet ! the bland color schemes on its MKIs are no match for the pretty Su-30Ks..

The Times of India, 1 November 2005
Navy Pilots head for ‘top gun’ training in US
New Delhi: The Navy has now sent its first batch of rookie fighter pilots to the US for training on combat maneuvers from aircraft carriers. The aim is to build a pool of pilots to fly MiG-29Ks from Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkow, now rechristened INS Vikramaditya, when it’s inducted by end of 2008. Under the $26-million agreement, 32 Indian Navy pilots will undergo the 18-month training programme for carrier-borne operations with the US Navy over a four-year period. ‘The first four pilots are now in the US after initial training with IAF. The next batch will go after six months’, said a senior Navy officer on Sunday.