how exactly is F-16blk52 average fighter in todays world? it can go as far as flanker with cft and carry as much external load as flanker which is almost twice the size and unreliable engines. now dont start to compare PW engines with AL-31. new apg radars have more MTBF than any other radars outside us.

just goes to show how ignorant you really are. the AL-31FP is considered to be one of the best engines around. read around a bit, and you’ll find that the maneuvers that are considered to be just for airshows are performable by the Sukhois thanks to the engine. Even at highly restricted airflow regimes they perform well without flaming out.

what rubbish are you claiming ? wanna check out the figures for the number of F-16s with engine failures ?!

http://afsafety.af.mil/magazine/htdocs/febmag98/eng_relt.htm

The primary culprits are the older Pratt & Whitney jets with the F100-PW-200 engines.In the F-16 family, “2” series Block designations such as Block 32/42/52 are Pratt-Whitney engined, while “0” series Block designations such as Block 30/40/50 are with the General Electric engine. The problem that’s been found with the older Pratts relates to the afterburner section. The AB shrouds have been falling off due to fatigue failure of the weld between the shroud and the engine. The result is a huge temperature rise with possible fire followed by engine failure. The GE engines, (F110-GE-100/129) at least to date, haven’t been having the same failure rate as the Pratts; possibly because of their different AB section design.

I read somewhere that USAF F-16s with PW engines are combat restricted. not sure if thats true though.

also read this

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/f16_6.html

Also read this !

http://www.afa.org/magazine/feb2004/0204accidents.html

“The USAF analysis showed that two-thirds of the 2002 accidents resulted primarily from human-factor issues, which generally means poor situational awareness during flight.”

“From 1993 through 1997, single-engine F-16 fighters each year had the most engine failures of USAF aircraft. An extensive engine improvement program brought down the number of power plant-related crashes.”

😀 the funny thing is that after all these superb posts detailing how good the Rafale is, this particular thread has just died ! no Typhoon supporters arguing about the merits of their jet ?! 😀

pic of a Qatari Mirage-2000-5 DED

Puffadder, I meant that I’ve seen videos of Omani Jaguars flown by RAF pilots that went as low as those in these pics. but these are not stills from that video. the Jaguar video that I’d seen had these flying so low that for a while the jet was not visible from a distance due to the cloud of dust, and as it approaches the building from where the video was shot, the Jaguar makes a very steep climb and then banks to the left. But what was very clear was that the pass was made very very low.

one good aspect of the US giving F-16s to Pak is that it will surely expedite the process for the MRCA acquisition for the IAF.

puffadder, I’ve seen the video from which I can say that these pics are true. they were flying so low, that just trailing the Jaguar is a cloud of dust, and the max altitude was no more than 10 feet or so.

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My suggestion: turn the Typhoon into a target drone (QF2000) and sell them cheap to the AdlA 😀 😀 :D[/QUOTE]

😀 :diablo: 😀