At least we know what happened to the Jervis Bay
Africa
I think there must still be stuff to find in places like Libya – the desert war tracked back and forth across North Africa. It’s just a question of time – don’t forget the state of the Lady be Good or the LRDG Chevvy.
Reckon – if the geopolitical position wasn’t so tricky – that East Africa might be a happy hunting ground as well – Wellesleys, Bombays, Harrows and the like – all were shunted off to East Africa once they became obsolete – hey there might even be a Maryland or Baltimore still lurking on some forgotten field.
Don’t hold your breath!
I tried a while ago enclosing the project plan I prepared for the original WIX initiative
Never even got an acknowledgement……….
Think the engine currently with the RR Heritage Trust is on loan from Steve Vizzard according to FP of a few months ago. I may be wrong but I thought a brace of Peregrines were actually recovered by him from a bog up north somewhere (if that’s the source of the substantial wreckage he holds).
I guess if anybody has the technical infrastructure to recreate a Whirlwind it would be him. If he decides to pursue such a project, let’s hope he succeeds
Anybody know if anything else is buried with G-AGOI?
Don’t forget the substantial Blenheim wreck that was recovered from a lake in Greece.
Photo’s of it are on the web, but it isn’t restored but on display in as found condition.Cheers
Cees
See the new “something or other Monthly” for a list of survivors as part of a Datafile focus on Blenheims
Anybody got a picure of N6211 by any chance??
Given that Duxford cannot be preserved in aspic,I think the AAMs a great building, spoilt by
1 – hanging aircraft – which seems to be increasingly popular,
and
2 – too much crammed into it
Strange – I never used to be particularly bothered by the hanging aircraft in say the Science Museum but the heavy flying trapezes they seem to have used at Duxford seem so un-natural and really jar.
Perhaps it’s more fundamental than that – perhaps it’s the fact that hanging from the ceiling is so unnatural a state for an aircraft – if it’s flying you expect noise and movement. Displayed on the ground with undercarriage down and engine stopped represents a natural state and therefore doesn’t seem out of the ordinary.
Having lived in the Peak District National Park, where the Peak Park Planning Board generally seem to want to put a guillotine on any architectural innovation beyond that which existing in about 1920 – with the notable exception of the David Mellor cutlery factory in Hathersage (IIRC they even specify the angle of slope for roofs and height of chimneys) I think there is scope to overlay modern design on older environments – it just requires better architects (and those commissioning them to have a feel for context as well as cost)
In the Peak we look back and see the range of architectural styles that developed over a period of a thousand years. In 100 years time, they will still see a range, but that range will stop in the mid 20th century and the architectural evolution since then will not be represented.
The Duxford dilemma
can probably be summed up in the old adage that
“change is the price of survival”
Many of today’s warbirds owe their existence to the fact that they ceased being warplanes and instead became water bombers, borate bombers, target tugs or executive transports. Many of the wartime airfields that remain relatively unscathed have done so because they have remained as military airfields eg Middle Wallop or active military bases – eg Bassingbourne . Those that have closed have either reverted to nature or have generally been changed beyond recognition in whatever new roles have been found for them.
Would be great to see just one complete wartime base restored to it’s wartime condition with a full complement of aircraft, vehicles – from DB tugs to K2 ambulances to WOT1 fire tenders, technical and domestic sites containing a full range of buildings etc etc, but sadly it’s probably an impossibility. (We could even call it RAF Beamish…..)
The AGT seems to be looking to Cosford as their future home – at least that’s what you can glean from their website – which hasn’t been updated for a while.
They seem to want to move into one of the original hangars formerly used for the contruction of Horsas but this would mean reproviding Hangar space for RAFM.
Increasingly this place seems to be dominated by the politics of the playground. Perhaps William Golding used this place for his source material. If he didn’t, then that’s increasingly what this place is becoming – except that it isn’t a place – it’s a friggin website on a server where saddos like me and you interact vicariously using historic aviation and a PC as common denominators.
Yes, there is a clique here – whether you like it or not. I can say that from the outside (where I definitely prefer to be) looking in. Count the private conversations which by their very nature and content exclude others or the private jokes or comments or the “I know more information than you and I’m not telling you” type of post which always come from the same group of people. OK that may be uncomfortable – but most of the denials about cliques tend to come from those people who you would classify as being members.
Other people post but sometimes get talked over and as a result over time decide to walk. You have sometimes got to be thick skinned here – certain people like either to show their superior knowledge or put you down in a particularly sarcastic way.
I would have thought that the events of the last few weeks would have made people realise that “life’s too short” and just get on with things. It’s only a friggin website
Doubtless I’ll probably be ignored by many on this site now, but I think I’ll manage to live with it!
Increasingly this place seems to be dominated by the politics of the playground. Perhaps William Golding used this place for his source material. If he didn’t, then that’s increasingly what this place is becoming – except that it isn’t a place – it’s a friggin website on a server where saddos like me and you interact vicariously using historic aviation and a PC as common denominators.
Yes, there is a clique here – whether you like it or not. I can say that from the outside (where I definitely prefer to be) looking in. Count the private conversations which by their very nature and content exclude others or the private jokes or comments or the “I know more information than you and I’m not telling you” type of post which always come from the same group of people. OK that may be uncomfortable – but most of the denials about cliques tend to come from those people who you would classify as being members.
Other people post but sometimes get talked over and as a result over time decide to walk. You have sometimes got to be thick skinned here – certain people like either to show their superior knowledge or put you down in a particularly sarcastic way.
I would have thought that the events of the last few weeks would have made people realise that “life’s too short” and just get on with things. It’s only a friggin website
Doubtless I’ll probably be ignored by many on this site now, but I think I’ll manage to live with it!
Hey……
As long as you’ve got an original staple, you can always print a new book around it and call it an original :dev2:
Wonder what else that principle might refer to :confused:
Mark 12 referring to the Spitfire in St James’ Park on 4th July – which as we all recall was painted as “4D-V”
“Pinch me somebody and tell me this isn’t TD248 in a new scheme and roaded in, the week before Leg-ends.”
Were the clues there all along if we cared to read them or is it all just a coincidence??
Tiger stripes must come into the scheme somewhere though
someone once said to me
“If you are friends with all who you know,
those who do not know you will also regard you as a friend”
I didn’t believe it really until reading this thread
sk
What might have been
Try these for size
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=X72059
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=X72060
sorry to hear of this
Pointless saying anything really as it’s all been said
I would like my condolences to be added under my own name, rather than my forum name, though.
Simon King