RD253
According to my well thumbed copy of British Museum Aircraft, published by Merseyside Aviation Society in 1977 (cor blimey – is it that long ago) RD253 was delivered to 19MU at St Athan in November 1944
7/3/45 to Pershore for preparation for sale to Portugal
17/3/45 Pershore to Portella as BF-13
by 1950 Instuctional Airframe in Lisbon
1965 Presented to RAF
Thence to 71 MU at Bicester
Parts from RD253 used to rebuild RD867 fom Malta
Thence to 4SoTT St Athan who managed to totally rebuild it
RD253 was chosen over RD867 as the museum aircraft to retain and RD867 was then exchanged with Canada for the Bolingbroke now in the BoB Museum.
RD253 arrived at Hendon on 15/3/71
ps while we’re on the subject of exchanges does anybody know what we got in return for the deal that saw the Mosquito TIII TW117 go to Norway??? :confused:
Well, well, well
Thanks Mark – that seems pretty conclusive to me
Now….
have you got any photos of purple painted Spitfire undercarriage doors and/or Spitfires from the USS Wasp…….. 😉
Post war desert scheme
Whilst Paul Lucas presents a compelling argument for the existence of this scheme – for both Tempests and Spitfire XVIIIs of 208 Squadron – quoting ORBs about planes being repainted at 109 MU in a “dark earth and light grey” or “light brown and light green” scheme -we don’t seem to have any colour photographic evidence of this interesting scheme.
Paul Lucas also proposed the theory that some FR XIVs were painted/delivered in the PR (Low Flying) scheme of EDSGrey/EDSGreen/PRU Mauve
Until we have either photographic or artefact proof, black and white photos are simply that. Its likely that any Spit parts originating from 208 will have been refurbed by now….. 😉
It seems to me that in fact the scheme was not really about camouflage either – it was to enable RAF pilots to distinguish RAF planes from IDF-AF planes as both were initially camo’d in the same DG/OG/MSG scheme
Syrian Air Force Mules
interestingly World Air Forces does not list the Syrians as having used the Mule although given the fact they bought a significant number of rebuilt PzIVs, Stug IIIs and (IIRC) Stug IVs – I’ve certainly seen pictures of Saukopf mantlets lying in scrapyards – from the Czechs, so never say never.
More interesting might be their use of Fiat G46s, G55s and G59s as well as MC205 Veltros……..
Anybody care to raise the old hoary story about Syrian Tiger tanks!!!
U234
The U234 was on the way to Japan with a crated Me262 at the war end – along, so they say, with some nuclear material.
It ultimately surrendered in the USA but there doesn’t seem to be any reference to the 262 subsequently appearing at Freeman Field or being assigned a T2- number.
Does anybody know what happened to it?
Wonder if it still rests in some Navy storage repository as per the last scene in the first Indiana Jones film………
I suppose it might have been “hot”
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/heads/footnotes/lastdays1.html
Walrus
First time I’ve fallen foul of the automatic censorship (or should that be censureship) on this board……..
I suppose some comment along the line of “if you like it, why don’t you buy it” was entirely predictable and inevitable.
As it happens I have neither the necessary funding or experience (and much more significantly track record) to pull together such a consortium, much as I would like to. Instead, for practical and financial reasons, I choose to own, restore and operate historic military vehicles of the four wheeled, rather than two, or four, winged variety.
In no way does that prevent me from mourning the Walrus’ loss from this country though.
Walrus et al
One presumes this is the **** Melton project which has been up for sale for sometime now.
If so another project leaves these shores
More of the family silver gone the way of the Mossie TIII
The other E boat survivor in the UK
See here – there are two survivors in the uk
this is the one found beached up a river
http://www.prinzeugen.com/S97.htm
enjoy
sk
Surely is not was
shouldn’t it be
“what is the SP on the Syrian Spit 22s”
Gosh I seem to have started something here………
1- I’m not against the sculpture aesthetically – in fact I quite like it, but…..
2 – I was more concerned about leaving such a priceless artifact exposed to the vagaries of the British climate – IIRC wasn’t the fabric on an RAFM airframe severely damaged by hail on Horse Gaurds Parade in 1968
3 – despite the “safe” suspension what sort of unusual stresses were applied to the airframe by the nose down display, and finally
4- would anybody have realised it wasn’t an original if they had made a replica????
LRDG Chevrolet WA
You only have to see the LRDG Chevrolet WA in the IWM to see the state of preservation. This was recovered from the desert about 15 years ago by the LRDG Association and instead of being restored has simply been coated in a preservative – the condition is remarkable. The full story appeared in an After the Battle many moons ago but I’m sure that most of you who have been to Lambeth know the piece of kit I’m referring to.
And don’t forget Captain Bill Lancaster’s Avro Avian which was lost pre-war but found in the 60s/70s by a Legion Etranger patrol.
first-time post so apols if i screw anything up:)
Wonder where the Komet came from as wll – there aren’t that many around!
jm