The Gaz 98/ RF-8 used a steel propeller for durability whilst most of the other Aerosans used wooden propellers. When the RF-8 was redesigned to use the M-11G radial engine (as used in the Po-2) and redesignated Gaz 98K a wooden propeller was fitted. The Gaz98 was powered by a Gaz M-1 engine – which was a standard automotive unit based on a 4-cylinder Ford Model A design.
The others are not forgotten, there are memorials. their sacrifice is no less meaningful, but some deaths are more anonymous than others, that sadly is a fact of war. My great uncle was one of the many killed at Paschendale with no grave. His death is no less than any other but I don’t consider that because some deaths are more widely known that that diminishes his sacrifice.
Human nature being what it is, this tangible fragment of a vanished past is naturally hugely interesting and focuses attention
Sgt Copping is commemorated on Column 249 of the Alamein Memorial
http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/131900/ALAMEIN%20MEMORIAL
The number of fallen servicemen with no known grave commemorated on the memorial is significantly greater than the figure already quoted – over 8,500 Army personnel and over 3,000 Air Force personnel
It’s for a possible reproduction of the RF-8 Aerosan
It’s just that that’s what the original was.
Just musing about a reproduction project but if I can’t source a propellor of the right size and appearance then there’s no point in pursuing any further. There would probably need to be other compromises due to the difficulty of obtaining parts but the appearance of the propeller seems pretty well fixed.
Apparently the Army is setting up a special psych ops/ social media Brigade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31070114
Comparing it to the Chindits seems a bit too sochul meedia though
Can’t imagine what the squaddies are gooing to call them…..
in addtion to the above post (143)…..
As well as ably representing the work of the Desert Air Force – which in the absence/extinction of Baltimores and/or Marylands seems pretty under-represented (other than by a stripped out cobbled together late model P-40) in the RAFM collection.
Moggy, I think you are choosing to be obtuse here.
I take ‘not thanks to this forum’, to mean that nobody here has done anything to save the aircraft,
I think that a bit unfair Bruce – I know that at least one member of this forum sought to pass on the very first published reports about the discovery of the aircraft to the Museum’s authorities. Ok it wasn’t braving the shifting sands of the Sahara or chewing the cud with the Bedouin – but a journey of a thousand miles (or more in this case) has to start with a single step.
Edit – and Seadog, before you jump to criticise the keyboard warrior – think on this – it was likely a keyboard warrior somewhere, perhaps on this forum, who chanced upon an obsure webpage in Italian relating to the discovery of the P40 and felt that the information was worthy of wider dissemination – perhaps with a view to seeing whether the time capsule of a wreck could be saved for posterity. You may have taken the final steps in the journey, but I’m sure you didn’t take the first.
They also serve who only stand and wait
Mk 22 Spitfire PK664, lost to the Nation?..We now have the prospect of it being rebuilt to fly for the owners personal collection and the ADDED BONUS is that restored in parallel with Seafire 46 LA564 a Mk 22 wing can be reverse engineered for the Seafire.
Mark
I can’t help but comparing that comment though with what ultimately happened to Mosquito TV959, Peter. Somebody was probably saying exactly the same thing about that deal at the time.
Once the airframe is no longer part of the “national collection” it is ultimately (and correctly) the owners decision as to it’s disposition, unless you have rules about the export of historic airframes like they have in Oz. You could also cite the case of the Meteor F8 “Winston” recently discussed on this forum.
I’m all for using surplus airframes for trade (when the trade delivers) – be that domestically or internationally – but to say that it isn’t lost to the nation is a stretch
Sometimes in life, we take a gamble and it pays off. Sometimes it doesn’t. If it had, some of us would be praising a man who would probably still have a job.
I think the issue for me is that it’s fine if you’re gambling with your own money – but if you’re gambling with what are essentially national heritage assets it’s an entirely different matter.
Presumably there was a formal contract and that had to be passed by the museum’s solicitors. Were there really no checks and balances in the system which questioned whether the release of the Spitfire should made be conditional upon delivery of the airframe to a mutually agreed safe haven from whence it could be readily transferred to museum facilities.
When as individuals do we pay in advance on the promise of delivery without any guarantee of that delivery?
Hi, I was asked today if I knew of any Meteors in the UK which were airworthy, I didn’t know hence this post if anyone can help.
I did a quick forum search but nothing popped up
Thanks
Ken
Martin Baker – 2 x T7s (modified)
Classic Air Force 1 x T7, 1 x NF11
Have I missed any?
I would have thought that the Overstrand nose section was a natural for Hendon though – even if it was a reproduction – as the first enclosed gun turret
One surprise was that Crittall is still going strong and making windows. Surely a British success story in itself!!!!
Long way away from Historic Aviation I know – but given the cost of the windows, it’s interesting how they’ve gone from “bog standard” fitted to everything from semis to barrack blocks in the 1930s to “top end” costing an arm and a leg in the 2010s
Thanks Mike
Is the Annual Report available on the web – and if so what period does it cover?
is there any recent news – or has nothing changed – and is anybody doing anything to resolve or progress this particular issue at the current time??
Or has the RAFM simply written off any chance of ever receiving the P40
Don’t Middle Wallop already have examples of both?
MW has the front fuselage of a Mk I Horsa and some Mk II noses and fuselage sections but no complete airframes.The CG-4A s incomplete as well