I think you’l find it was a case of premature gear retraction…
you can take tablets for that nowadays. I’m led to believe
will she be restored as a civvie DC3? Thats surely the only one in Europe?
isn’t the DC3 going to be restored as a civilian aircraft in wartime makings – ie camouflaged but with civilian registration in large letters underlined with red/white/blue stripes. There were a lot of DC3s based at Donny during the war
May be some time though as the fuselage skin seemed paper-thin in places
I was about to say, was it not the Patrick Lindsay one?
I thought it went Stateside, but my info is probably waaaay off.
if it’s the Patrick Lindsay example didn’t it go to Doug Arnold and is still reputedly stored in one of the bunkers at Greenham Common
Do17
A bit more information – don’t know how long it’s been on the website though
http://www.aircraftconservation.org/aircraft-restoration-projects/dornier-17-conservation-project
Lets try and keep the discussion on the Do17, rather than any other perceived issues with RAFM.
Bruce
Sorry Bruce – but I disagree – I think it is relevant
With limited funding, choices have to be made – if you spend it on A you can’t spend it on B or C or D
I personally think there is a welcome wind of change blowing through the RAFM but that doesn’t stop me from questioning whether the costly recovery of a potentially salt water corroded wreck is more important than some of the other potential projects – even if the airframe is unique.
I’d rather see the DTM raise and restore it and the RAFM works, with others if necessary to fill some of the key gaps in the collection.
re mmmm
interesting dilemma isn’t it
do we want them to spend the money on the Do17 – or would we prefer for them to use what money they have to fund say
– completion of the Hampden restoration
– restoration of the Brigand fuselage and fund a search in Malaysia for some tail/wing/nacelle/undercarriage material
-restoration of the stored Ventura
-restoration of the LVG CVI
-restoration of the Farman
-support for the Whitley project
-support for the Stirling Project and confirm or disprove the Russian Stirling
-support for the DeH Hornet project
-support the Assault Glider Project (a Hamilcar to complete the set…..)
-collect any available Wildebeast/Vincent material for a rebuild
-research and fund the build of some wings for the Wallace
-fund the reproduction of a Siskin using the available wing sections
-(insert your own pet project here)
all of these would be pretty unique projects as well
Do we get the song, same as with the Spitfire?
Surely its a reproduction, using some original pieces from, and the identity of, an original. Would a Mona Lisa recreated from a flake of original paint be regarded as the original – I think not………………..
Does that matter – it’s simply down to the individual – it certainly floats my boat – on which point, would it be possible to reproduce one of the Spits with floats??
This “Same old, same old” argument happens every time a “new” Spitfire comes off the production line nowadays as the starting point becomes more and more fragmented. Perhaps we now need a secretive group of Spitfire Police – to judge provenance – like they have for Monet paintings as the recent BBC programme showed
There are rockeries and there are ROCKERIES!
Crystal Lakes, Montana July 2004.
Full size Stonehenge, still weathering in…give it a 1000 years.
Mark
presumably somebody picked up a pebble from the real Stonehenge to give it provenance and an identity
so did they cart the stone around with the plane?
the stone in the Leeming photos looks very yellow and Cotswold-y rather than the grey gritstone you associate with t’mills oop north
(edit -looking at the plaque it looks as if they did…..well at least my stone recognition skills are up to scratch)
If you’re in the market for a new Spitfire/Me109/Hurricane, you need to speak to a very capable and knowledgeable aircraft engineer named Steve Vizard presently located on the Isle of Wight. Mr. Vizard runs an a/c manufacturing company specializing in the production of the above aircraft.
About two years ago I had the mad idea of getting a group of like minded individuals together to produce a feasibility analysis of the problems associated with building a new Mosquito. I mentioned the project to Steve Vizard who reckoned that ir could be done but would cost then about four million !
John Green
but once it was built, would you be allowed to fly it…….
If they ar ethinking of using the wing sections and other parts from the scrap yard they are about 11 months to late it has been totaly wiped clean off the face of the map.Here in Malta (over here at present)we have the two hastings cockpit sections and a couple of bits in storage.An american gentleman bought some of the other stuff (and raised all the prices to ridiculous leveles),heritage Malta has the part remains of the sea hawk (god knows why its is beyond redemption).
I never saw any wings in the scrap yard in all the many hours I spent in there
the only Hastings parts where Two cockpit sections badly knocked about and the remains of two wing sections with the engine nacelles on and undercarriage in place but not what you would describe as either a centre section or an outer wingas they had been chopped very randomly.I there fore wonder where these major wing sections are as I dont think they are coming from here ?.I will make some enquiries tomorrow and post back .
If past experience is anything to go by, expect this thread to be moderated shortly. In the meantime their latest newsletter – February – seems to suggest that the required sections have already been dissembled and loaded into a shipping container. One wonders whether the “American gentleman” was actually Canadian……
why doesn’t the RAFM collect the various civil light aircraft it has into a themed display entitled “Something for the weekend, Sir?”
explaining the role of RAF (and ex-RAF) fliers in light aviation and record breaking aviation
showing how developments in civil aircraft were adopted in RAF machines
showing how civilian types such as the DH.60 were adopted for military use
that then keeps everybody happy
The meteors both belong to Martin Baker. I presume they are modified Mark 8s or modified T7s. (I can’t remember but someone on the forum will know and I forgot to ask my colleagues!) The Gloster FSM was in the hangar.
I forgot about the Martin-Baker examples:o – particularly as you don’t associate the two airframes appearing together very often.
oh well we’re all fallible…..
Aren’t they T.7s with F.8 tails – referred to as T.7 1/2s
From the original project brief I sent to Mike
Wheels and Tyres
AH 10110 10.5 -10 (fitted only to Whirlwind as mainwheels)
AHO 5007 5.50 -6.00-4 (also fitted to Lysander and Blenheim V)
Can’t remember where I got the info now