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  • in reply to: Nimrod Cockpit #1101322
    MJA01
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    The Comet Fuselage used for the Iron Bird rig at Warton came from Woodford where it was used as a fire evacuation trainer for a few years, prior to this it had been in the water tank at Farnborough.

    The Nose section of XV263 wasn’t needed for the fatigue rig work the fuselage was used for so it was removed from the “tube” at FRA Aviation (Hurn) and road hauled to Warton where it was joined on to the Comet fuselage to produce the “Iron Bird”.

    The remaining section of XV263’s fuselage then had the cabin presure floor modified to MRA4 design at FR Aviation before road hauling to Woodford prior to its eventual road move to the Brough site for static wing fatigue testing in support of the MRA4 project.

    The fuselage used in the fatigue rig at Woodford in support of Nimrod MR2 was infact XV148 one of the original Nimrod prototypes, only the cockpit section remains to this day being cared for and restored by its owner the author of the Air Britain Comet book, it even has electrical power applied to it these days with fully illuminated gauges and EL Pannels, most impressive from the photographs I have seen, even more so when you consider the state it was in when it left Woodford circa 1997 – Mike

    in reply to: Nimrod Cockpit #1102342
    MJA01
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    The Finningley AEW was XV263, the cockpit section from that aircraft formed the front end of the Nimrod MRA4 Iron Bird flying control rig based at Warton where it still currently resides (by the skin of its teeth). Interestingly (and probably a very little known fact) the nose section of XV263 was mated up to a Comet fuselage that had been in the water tank at Farnborough during the investigation surrounding the infamous cabin structure fails that grounded the Comet in its early years.

    The fuselage section of XV263 was modified at FRA Aviation to make the centre section the same as the MRA4 (Cabin Pressure floor was the primary alteration) before being transported by road to the BAE Brough site. It was then used to hold the MRA4 wing for fatigue testing, I am not too sure what happend to it after that.

    What I see as a real shame were the radomes from XV263 as they were scrapped at Finningley, it would have been great to save the Nose Radome and see it on 259, but the whole support structure would also have been needed including the nose wheel panier skirt assembly, I remember crawling in to the nose radome of XV263 back in 1996 only to find once inside you could stand up and practically walk around inside it…….

    in reply to: Nimrod XV235 – Road Move to Cosford #1103250
    MJA01
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    This was XV247 dismantled for the AN124 transportation as part of the MRA4 build (she eventually became Nimrod MRA4 ZJ516 PA1)

    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/bluetail228/XV2472.jpg

    Now for day the after the above picture was taken, and probably the only viable way to move a Nimrod from Kinloss:

    Hire one of these at significant cost:

    http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9255/antonov2.jpg

    Winch the Nimrod in to the Antonov on the wheel frames:

    http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2508/photo0401e.jpg

    Fly it from Kinloss to Birmingham International Airport then road haul it to RAF Cosford, but don’t cut the back end off like we did with XV263:

    http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7800/f34e.jpg

    At Cosford put the Nimrod back on its flight stillage wheels and tow it under the low height train bridge, around the corner and straight in to the museum.

    Doing the above is certainly achievable at a cost, moving the wings would be a far more difficult challenge.

    2. IIRC some of the warton nimrod fuselarge were flow in AN124’s (could that land at Cosford?)

    We used the AN124 on nine occasions to move Nimrod fuselages around starting in 1997, the last move was late December 2007 from Waddington to Woodford. If you managed to land the An124 at Cosford you would end up with the An124 on static display as it wouldn’t take off again.

    As I said above, fly the Nimrod in the An124 from Kinloss to another more local to Cosford airport capable of handling the An124 (Birmingham Int or EMA are good possibles), road haul the fuselage to Cosford then tow it under the train bridge. The alternate way in to the museum which goes over the train line rather than under it would not be suitable for the road haulage kit used for this sort of operation, for a start it would never get around the 90 degree bend immediately after the bridge, and that assumes the trailer could even get over the bridge! – Mike

    in reply to: Manchester Ringway, 11/12/2007 (inc. 'DIE') #442681
    MJA01
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    Great pictures, I love the all black shot (silhouette) its just different but a cracking photograph, probably a tad cold their today but clear skies, WDF next Tuesday (check PM) – Mike

    in reply to: Heavy Jet Transports #2543734
    MJA01
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    Have to put it back into production first. Though that does seem a possibility . . .

    Perhaps that is the reason VDA and AA joined forces to get the build line going again – the revised AN124 new build will have a higher payload and total cargo capacity, they are also looking at reducing the flight deck crew from the current 6/7 – MJA

    in reply to: Nimrod AEW survivors? #1261568
    MJA01
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    263 is incorrectly listed as being at Warton, only the cockpit section is located there, the fuslage from frame 14 to the RPB is at the Brough site in support of the MRA4 upgrade programe (fatigue rig for the new wing) – I can upload some pictures of 263 leaving RAF Finningly after being taken apart should anyone be interested as I took quite a few hundred as the jet was dismantled – MJA

    in reply to: Heavy Jet Transports #2543800
    MJA01
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    Why mess around with small freighters, go for the really big boys toys – sure the Il-76 is a great jet but you cannot beat the true work horse of the skies AN124, OK I appreciate the picture is poor quality but I had to compress it somewhat to stay within normal forum rules

    http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8849/an124plusnimvl1.jpg

    The is will be repeated on the 18/12/07 at RAF Wad in Lincolnshire, so a few of you heavy aircraft watchers might want to take a look, don’t be late though 08:00 (local) for the arrival – outbound as soon as poss but probably nearer 11:30 😀
    Oh and anyone thinking this is a wind up will miss the event, I can assure you the dates/ times/ carrier and aircraft are all genuine – MJA

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