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  • in reply to: Blackjack intercepts – add Kfir to the growing list. #2265635
    nkvd
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    Might be better to post this in one of the existing news threads rather than opening a debating thread.

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2268182
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    Some of the confusion about PAKFA engines might have been caused by this quotation on wikipedia under the heading 117 which says-“the new engine 117 will belong to the 5 + generation and its characteristics will be superior to the existing foreign counterparts engine for fifth generation aircraft. This is – a fundamentally new engine, The motor unit weight is 30% less (than the 117C – approx.), Life-cycle costs will by 30% less, and it should be cheaper- said Marchuk.”
    Where it says “the new engine 117″ it should read ” new engine type 30″ because that is what it is describing.Therefore, this should not have been written under heading 117.However,the table chart on that page is a good place to start

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2268234
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    ***cleaned up ***

    BTW i dug out an article written 3 years ago(for Scooter to clear up his “confusion” once and for all).
    Testing of the new engine that will finally power the T-50 stealth fighter will start in 2014, Evgeny Marchukov, General Designer-Director of A. Lyulka Scientific-and-Technical Center, forming part of NPO, recently told the press. (via Lenta.ru)

    “The first engine will be assembled in two years and the testing will be started in the network of the engine’s full-scale development. This is a brand new engine, that is why its development is taking much time”, Marchukov said.

    Moscow-based Salut and NPO Saturn are building a brand new stealthy powerplant for the T-50, which is not a derivative of the AL-41F1 (Product 117) engine that powers it currently.

    Called Product 30, the new engine will be 30% lighter than the Product 117 engine and come with 30% lower life-cycle cost.

    The new engine is expected to offer about 17.5 tons (171.6 kn) of thrust in full afterburning mode and somewhere in the range of 12 tons (117.7 kn) in dry mode, allowing the aircraft to comfortably super-cruise at around Mach 1.5.

    CEO of NPO Saturn, Ilya Fedorov, said in April 2011 that development of the new engine is running ahead of schedule and the first engines will be delivered to the Russian Ministry of Defense in 2015. The first serial T-50s should be acquired by Russian air forces the same year.

    Earlier, NPO Saturn and Salut were competing to develop an engine for the T-50 with designs known as Eniseysk-A and Eniseysk-B, respectively.

    Minimizing Development Risk

    According to Salut CEO Yuri Eliseev, in order to minimize risks, technologies that will go into the second-stage engine will be developed and tested as upgrades to the Al-31F engines that power the Su-27/Su-30 family of fighters.

    As part of the first stage of development, a new compressor has been fitted into a new version called AL-31FM1 with a thrust of 27,000 lb., interval between overhauls of 1,000 hr. and service life of 2,000 hr.; compared to 25,000 lb. thrust, 500 hr. between overhauls and 1,500 hr. of service life for the serial AL-31F.

    The AL-31FM1 already powers modernized Su-27SM Russian air force fighters and has also been approved for installation on Su-34 bombers.

    A further development, the AL-31FM2, is being bench-tested. The engine features a new combustor chamber and turbine and reached 29,200 lb. thrust.

    Interim Powerplant: NPO Saturn AL-41F1 (Product 117)

    In March 2010, Sukhoi chief Mikhail Pogosyan said the T-50 would enter service with the air force powered by the Saturn 117. He indicated development of the second-stage engine could take another decade.

    The 14.5 tons thrust NPO Saturn AL-41F1 (Product 117) engine is an upgraded version of AL-41F1S engine intended for Su-35, which in turn is a derivative of the NPO Saturn’s AL-31F series that power the Su-27/Su-30 family of fighters.

    The Product 117 engine comes with a new full-authority digital engine control unit and uses key components of the AL-41F1S supercruising core. The AL-41F was developed for the Mikoyan MFI fighter (Mikoyan Project 1.44).

    The Su-35 is the first non-US fighter with substantial sustained supersonic cruise capability, so even initial models of PAF-FA should support good supercruise giving it a good advantage in initial engagement.

    According to Saturn, the Product 117 engine satisfies most air force requirements (including supercruise ability) but is not a stealthy design.

    FGFA / T-50 New Engine (Product 30) Testing to Start in Two Years(meaning early 2014)

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2268723
    nkvd
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    thanks Jo

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2269564
    nkvd
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    Ignore that article.Countries dont just wake one day and decide to spend $10b or more on jets,especially in a chaotic democracy like indonesia.Take a look at Indonesia`s defence budget

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2270651
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    Looking forward to it.I know you are as good as your word Jo.I might be newly registered but i am not a newbie and Rii you got nothing to apologise for,trolls know how to provoke(ie 3D TVC on the SU 35S is for air shows -ignoring the fact that if a missile has to radically change its trajectory then its range is reduced)

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2270757
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    Here is NPO Saturn’s (НПО «Сатурн») Type 30 5-staged HP compressor section. The most notable point of the descriptive summary is that the first 2 stages are intermetallic [titanium-aluminide*] BLISKs and stages 3-5 are bladed rings composed of a new high-temperature nickel alloy VV751P (ВВ751П):

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]222453[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]222454[/ATTACH]

    It was put through it’s paces @ FGUP TsIAM’s (ФГУП ЦИАМ) test stand from 28/02/13 to 15/05/13.

    The development of the 3-staged LP compressor falls under the remit of Lyulka (headed by overall Type 30 programme director Yevgeny Martchukov), Yakovlev, NPP Motor and several academic aerospace and engineering institutes.

    Also, earlier this month NPO Saturn and FGUP TsIAM signed a wide ranging agreement on future engine R&D that includes:

    Austin, the TsIAM/CIAM link above also details some of the developments on the graphic-chart you were asking about.

    *http://www.umpo.ru/News118_743.aspx
    **sounds suspiciously like this: http://www.findpatent.ru/patent/247/2479819.html The Type 30’s stator, (7) in the diagram is known to be PMC as stated by manufacturer NPP Motor. Of course, you all know my views for ‘8’.

    Thanks Jo.For some of us who cant read Russian, posts like this are appreciated.Google translate and the like can be vexing to say the least

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2271294
    nkvd
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    Thanks for the info.And you are right about 8 or 9 being for IAF(read about it somewhere too)

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2271335
    nkvd
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    sukhoi have on previous occasions said PAKFA engine going on final assembly later this year(2013)and bench testing starting early next year and they have also said 5 would be out late this year and here it is right on time.So from what i understand,no 6 is for static tests and no 7 will have type 30 engine in early 2015.Thanx for the pics and hopefully someone can explain the structural changes if any

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2271415
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    I came here on PAKFA thread hopping to see more knowledgeble members discussing T50-5 but instead people have allowed themselves to be derailed on the last 3 pages by Scooter and other trolls.the last 2 posts seem to have got us back on track and can we please keep it that way after all T50-5 has just come out.More discussion of T50- 5 pics please

    in reply to: Shenyang J-21/31/F-60/AMF thread part 1 #2284343
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    TR1 was referring to J-20. Production J-31 is powered by WS-13A if I’m not mistaken.

    Just where have you seen this “production J-31” fitted with WS-13A?FYI Siberia was never Chinese territory.Only areas around the Amur river and Vladivostock.Do your homework before posting nonsense

    in reply to: Brazil as a military power #2240887
    nkvd
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    I don’t think that will ever happen, especially due to certain countries having closer affiliations to each other than others – US, UK, France, Germany and Japan are all part of the same bloc in most instances.

    Nothing in the universe is stationary.The UNSC like everything else will change in due time.Note the gradual changes in the GDP rankings

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