Speaking of which, how is France planning to deploy Meteor on Rafale in air-to-air config? 2x MICA IR, 2x MICA EM, 2x Meteor, centreline tank?
According to the article the Rafale is supposed to carry only 2 Meteor within French forces, adding to the MICA’s capabilities, not replacing it.
I think the real issue is the false paradigm that international cooperation has any kind of benefits on complex programs. It’s far from true, as evidenced here.
International cooperation, except in some particular bilateral examples, only leads to loss of efficiency and loss of independance.
Nic
Well not always, I think the major problem with many of the previous cooperation including the Typhoon was the lack of clear requirements. 4 nations trying to fit 4 very different requirements into one aircraft while trying to get as much industrial advantages as possible, add a few economic restrictions and concurrence like the JSF program and you get into a lot of trouble.
Bottom line the Rafale is ahead right now because it was intended from the beginning by France to replace all other types of aircraft, with funding and R&D tailored from the start to reach that goal.
It’s a very good news to hear about the AESA being operational and I was quite surprised to hear about the modularity of the radar allowing the French air force to plug the active front into any Rafale built to date in about 6hrs. That’s quite something considering the current climate of budgetary restrictions making it very unlikely that an active front will be purchased for every platforms. That’s what I call value for money.
About the radar’s range, the current estimation of 200+ km means that whatever the true range, the Rafale should be more than able to launch the METEOR at the same distances the Typhoon or any other aircraft boasting of a larger dish would, making the latter far less relevant as far as actual air combat is concerned. I believe that’s a further argument that should put to rest the myth of the small nose…
Front-line Rafale-M successfully test-fires Exocet
9/27/2012
An MBDA Exocet AM 39 Block 2 Mod 2 anti-ship missile was test-fired from an operational Dassault Aviation Rafale-M multirole fighter of the French Navy (Marine Nationale) for the first time on 19 September.
Flying from the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle , the Rafale launched the Exocet at a target in the L’ile du Levant missile test range, near Toulon, operated by the Délégation Générale pour l’Armement (DGA), scoring a direct hit.
The AM 39 Block 2 Mod 2 is a fully digitalised version of the air-launched Exocet. This test-firing validated all operating procedures, including mission planning, weapon handling and loading, target designation (with the Rafale’s onboard radar or from an external source via the Link 16 datalink), and weapon delivery procedures. Range availability issues delayed this milestone trial, which was originally planned for mid-2012.
The Exocet is now cleared for operational use by the French Navy’s two frontline Rafale units – Flottilles 11F and 12F – equipped with the F3 Standard version of Rafale-M. As a result, the Super Etendard Modernisé, which up to now had provided the Exocet launch platform, will be gradually withdrawn from service.
IAF upgrades include ToT and most of the upgrade to take place in India by HAL, it cannot be Dassault fault India insist on transferring pretty much all technologies, and no countries will give them free.
Taiwan is a special case, and they’ve got maintenance issues with a few western item they’ve purchased a while back because even the USA don’t want to upset China.
French, UAE, Greek and Indian’s Mirages work just fine.
France Aeronautical sector booming in French
Will Typhoon’s radar finally catch up? in French.
Joint Flight Supports UK-French Co-operation
14:52 GMT, September 18, 2012 Senior officers in the Royal Air Force and French Air Force traded places on 14 September to fly in Typhoon and Rafale fighter jets in a demonstration of the strong ties which exist between the two air arms.

Dassault making a new offer to Switzerland in French.
Contract for India’s Purchase of Rafale Fighter Jets Expected To Be Signed By April
The contract for India’s purchase of 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) fighter planes should be signed by April 2013, Air Chief Marshal N. A. K. Browne, Chief of Air Staff told Indian news outlets. “We are discussing offsets, transfer of technology, HAL’s [Hindustan Aeronautics Limited] role and the cost, of course. It is progressing well,” he told the journalists.
Eighteen of the 126 Rafales are to be purchased directly from Dassault, while HAL will manufacture the other 108 under a licence at an upcoming facility in Bangalore, the paper noted.
India to finalize deal with Dassault on Rafale fighters purchase this fiscal
Indian air force to buy French fighters
NEW DELHI, Sept. 21 (UPI) — The Indian air force is to finalize a contract to purchase 126 French Dassault Rafale jet fighters this year, in one of 2012’s largest armaments purchases.
The sale marks a significant diversification of India’s armaments base as previously its major supplier of weaponry was the Russian Federation.
In Bangalore, Indian Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne stated that, while negotiations are ongoing on with Dassault Aviation, New Delhi is optimistic that the negotiations be finished and contracts exchanged in the current fiscal year, which ends in March.
The contract for the 126 Rafale medium multi-role combat aircraft is worth $20 billion, Indo-Asian News Service reported Thursday. The fighter jets are intended to replace the air force’s fleet of MiG-21s.
Given its high accident rate, the MiG-21 was deeply unpopular with Indian pilots, who referred to it as “the flying coffin” and the “widow-maker.”
Four months ago in Parliament Indian Defense Minister A.K. Antony said 482 MiG aircraft accidents took place through April 19, 2012. Antony added that the MiG-21 crashes killed 171 pilots, 39 civilians and eight other military personal. The accidents were caused by “both human error and technical defects,” he said.
The assembly’s response was immediate and critical.
“The Indian air force has lost several talented pilots, senior and junior, thanks to the flying coffin that the MiGs are,” an unnamed source said to be a retired air force wing commander told the Indo-Asian News Service. “It is very easy for officers on the ground conducting inquiries to blame pilots and the human element after each crash. But each IAF pilot puts his life at stake from Day One.”
Former air force Vice Chief of Air Staff Pranab Kumar Barbora said that, while it was a fact the air force has lost many MiG-21s and a substantial number of highly skilled pilots, the subsequent rate of MiG-21 accidents in the context of the number of flying hours had been reduced.”
Indian air force Air Marshal Barbora, who flew a MiG-21 just before he retired in 2010, maintained that it was a “fantastic” even though its high landing speed made it “slightly tricky” to handle.
Last year Minister of State for Defense M.M. Pallam Raju said, “The MiG 21s will get phased out by 2015-16. I think the last of the squadrons of the aircraft will be phased out by 2017.”
The Indian air force purchased 946 MiG-21s, of which 476 were lost in various accidents over the past 45 years.
Raju said that after the phasing out of the “MiG 21s from operational service, the air force will have the LCA, SU-30MKI, Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft and the Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft, which is being developed with Russia.”
Competition for the 126 MRCA IAF fighter aircraft contract was fierce. Besides Dassault, the Eurofighter Typhoon was short-listed, while other competitors included the Russian MiG 35, Swedish Saab Gripen and the American Boeing F/A-18 E/F and the Lockheed Martin F-16 combat jets.
Gripen NG prefered to the Rafale in Algeria
According to our information, the Algerian Staff began negotiations with the Swedish Saab to replace a portion of its fleet of MiG-29 by Gripen NG