The Iranian Scorpions
2x F-4E Phantom IIs
2x F-5E Tiger IIs
2x F-14A Tomcats
2x Mig-29 Fulcrums
1x 747 Tanker
From what I understand,The Forger was underpowered in the hot and high conditions of Afghanistan,and as a result could carry only a small payload,therefore the Su-25 proved better in the CAS/Strike roles.
Pan Am bought a few too,as passanger helicopters.
As an Ex Army Cav Scout,I’d say in that situation the most welcome sight would be a flight of A-10s and some AH-64s or Mi-24s and Su-25s to provide take out the bad guys.AC-130Us wouldn’t be too bad either.Then have either UH-60L Blackhawks or CH-53E Super Stallions for the pull out.I like the idea of the upgraded A-37,those were nice little jets.Going along with that,what about an PC-9 or PC-21 armed with 4 wing mounted 20mm guns,Hellfire missiles,rocket pods,like an upgraded ALX.
I’d say by now all the EC-135 Airborne Command Post models have been replaced by the E-6 model.The RC-135s are still flying and have recently been re-engined with the CFM turbofans like on the KC-135Rs.There are the WC-135s and OC-135 Open Skies aircraft.There are also TC-135 trainers for the RC-135 fleet.The C-137s were taken out,replaced by the C-32s.
I’ve read and heard that Singapore’s upgraded F-5S models can carry AIM-120s supposedly.The F-20 had the capability to carry AIM-7s and those were SARH so I assume it wouldn’t be a problem for the F-5 to carry the smaller AMRAAM in theroy at least.
I want to get that one.Good movie and don’t forget the opening shot inside the EC-135C Looking Glass as it flys over the cornfields.
Correction,the Israeli jet in “The Sum of all Fears” were A-4 Skyhawks,not Harriers.They did operate these during the Yom Kippur war.Also the aircraft that attacked the US Carrier were Tu-22M-3 Backfires,not Su-24 Fencers.
The F-108 Rapier was an escort fighter for the B-70 Valkyrie.The F-12 was a CONUS air defence interceptor.Therefore each had its own diffrent mission.I’m sure though the F-108 would have been a great interceptor too though,like the F-101 which was designed to be an escort then evolved into an interceptor for NORAD.
The La-250 Anakonda was supposed to be a long range interceptor,not a tactical bomber like the IL-28 Beagle.
SAAB GRIPEN EXPORTS START
By Karl Schwarz
The procurement of new fighter aircraft could hardly be quicker. Only 11 months after signing a leasing agreement, the Czech Air Force is set to take delivery of its first six JAS 39C Gripens in April. The remaining eight, including two two-seaters, are expected by August. To make it possible, the Swedish armaments agency, Forsvarets Materielverk (FMV), which was a signatory to the agreement, assigned the “highest priority” to the “ambitious programme”.
This fast reaction is of course only possible because the Swedes have been able to simply divert some aircraft from ongoing production for the Swedish Air Force. As a result of the drastic economy measures confirmed in mid-December by the parliament in Stockholm, the Flygvapnet no longer needs anything like all the 204 Gripens (including 28 two-seaters) on order and therefore has a vital interest in finding alternative homes for the at least 40 aircraft which are now surplus to requirements. Under these portents, the first JAS 39C bound for the Czech Republic took off on its maiden flight in Linköping as early as 18 October 2004, only four months after signing of the contract.
At that time, the first two Czech pilots had already completed a month of training with the Flygvapnet’s F 7 Squadron in Satenäs. After qualification for high g loads in the centrifuge, induction training in emergency procedures, around 20 missions on the simulator and five flights in the two-seater JAS 39B, Wing Commanders Michael Boruvka and Peter Mikulenka flew their first solo flights in the JAS 39A on 26 October. Conversion training to the C version with its more modern cockpit (large colour displays instead of monochrome screens) is set to follow over the next few weeks.
Following in Boruvka’s and Mikulenka’s footsteps, six other pilots started their training in November. Altogether some two dozen pilots are to be converted to the Gripen, although the Czechs are finding it difficult to retain suitable candidates with the appropriate experience in the armed forces. Apparently the pay in the airlines is two to three times better.
Some 40 technicians have also been training with the Swedish Air Force in Halmstad since September 2004. The aim is that they should complete their training by March. In any case, the Czechs will be able to count on Swedish support even after their return to their home base in Caslav. Around ten technicians are to be temporarily assigned by Saab under the terms of the support agreement.
The leasing contract, which runs for ten years to 30 September 2015, provides for 21,000 flying hours and sets guarantees with regard to operational ready rates. The fixed price of 19,650 billion Czech korun (Euro645.13 million), which is to be paid in ten annual instalments, does not of course include either fuel or weapon systems. Initially these are to be confined to Sidewinders and possibly the AIM 120 AMRAAM; however, procurement of this has not yet been finalised.
Although the only costs at issue for the moment are the costs of leasing the Gripens, the Czechs have obtained generous compensation, which no doubt tipped the balance in favour of the Swedish tender. 130 percent of the costs are to be covered by industrial offsets through to the year 2014; of this, 20% will come from orders for the country’s aerospace and defence industry.
As mentioned above, the Czechs are getting the latest, C version of the Gripen. This has a retractable refuelling probe near the left air intake, onboard oxygen generation system (OBOGS) and NATO-standard radio equipment. All the inscriptions are in English, and a number of standard weapons can be used. Minor software adjustments, for example to the map displays, should be certificated by March.
In getting the programme through so quickly, the Czechs have managed to be the first of the new NATO partners to re-equip to a western high-performance jet. One factor here was the urgent need for a replacement for the MiG-21. Meanwhile, the first JAS 39C’s earmarked for Hungary are already in production in Linköping. The official rollout is scheduled for 25 January. Hungary had concluded a leasing contract for 14 Gripens (including two two-seaters) back in December 2001, but then changed the specification, so that they too are to receive the new C and D models.
The first five Hungarian pilots will commence conversion training in Satenäs in January, followed by the ground support teams, whose six-month course is due to start in April in Halmstad. The Hungarian fighter controllers will similarly attend a course starting in September. Deliveries of the Gripen are planned to run from March 2006 to December 2007. They will be stationed in Kecskemét, where they will probably be assigned to the 1st Fighter Squadron (Puma).
Kecskemét is at present Hungary’s only remaining fighter base. Over the last few years it has been modernised and adapted to NATO standards, at great expense. The remaining 14 MiG-29’s, whose service life was extended with Russian assistance, are still flying there and, according to current plans, they are to remain in service until 2009.
Hungary was planning to equip its Gripens with an array of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons, but lack of money is evidently making the procurement difficult. Thus, out of an American package comprising AIM-9M Sidewinders, GBU laser bomb kits, AGM-65H/K Mavericks and AIM-10C5 AMRAAMs, only the 40 AMRAAMs, worth $25.39 million (Euro19 million) were actually ordered in December. The next step planned is to issue an open an invitation to tender, which could lead, for example, to the purchase of second-hand Sidewinders from Sweden or Germany. For the Hungarian pilots, who are accustomed to a helmet-mounted sight on the MiG-29 and the agile R-73E (AA-11 Archer), this would be a step backwards.
Whereas the Czech Republic and Hungary are getting their Gripens from the Flygvapnet’s quota of 204 aircraft, the JAS 39’s bound for South Africa are brand new aircraft that will bring the total number of aircraft ordered up to 232. The contract signed in December 1999 provides for the delivery of nine two-seaters and 19 single-seaters (optional), which are to be stationed at Makhado Air Base in the north of the country. According to the latest plans, the Swedes are to begin constructing a fully instrumented two-seater in January 2005, which will then go to South Africa for flight testing in 2006. Deliveries to the South African Air Force (SAAF) are to commence in 2008. Including the single-seaters, they should be complete by 2012.
It goes without saying that the Gripen marketing team are not yet satisfied with the successes achieved today. “We see the opportunity to deliver over 200 Gripens world-wide over the next ten years,” said outgoing marketing director Bob Kemp confidently at a presentation for FLUG REVUE. Especially as a replacement for old MiGs or for the F-5, the Gripen is optimal, he argues. It is also in a good position as regards the ever higher requirements for industrial offsets and flexible financing.
The next opportunity for a Gripen sale is Thailand, whose Chief of Staff, Air Force, Air Chief Marshall Kongsak Wantara, surprisingly announced in an interview on 8 October 2004 that they had selected the Gripen to replace the F-5 fleet. The requirement here is for up to 20 aircraft. Discussions regarding the details of a possible order have since begun, but Saab is not taking anything for granted yet. Apparently it could take a year to wrap things up contractually.
Another hot candidate for the Gripen is Bulgaria, which wants to replace its MiG-29 fleet, possibly starting in 2007. On 23 September 2004, the defence ministry in Sofia signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Gripen International and BAE Systems Information and Electronic Systems, which is aimed at exploring the opportunities for modernising the Bulgarian armed forces. Meanwhile, marketing is being conducted in Slovakia and, of late, in Switzerland as well. Finally, the Gripen is also a contender in Brazil, although a purchase there seems to have been put back by several years. Informal discussions have also been held with India and Pakistan.
Since 1995 export marketing for the Gripen has been conducted jointly by SAAB and BAE Systems, which set up a 50:50 joint venture company, Gripen International, for this purpose in September 2001. Having benefited from the experience of the British, evidently the Swedes now feel strong enough to stand more on their own feet. Hence, as of 1 January 2005, Saab took over “responsibility for canvassing for new export orders for the Gripen”. According to the official announcement from Saab at the beginning of December, BAE Systems will retain “joint responsibility for activities in the established export markets and may co-operate on future exports if required.” At the same time, BAE is to reduce its stake in Saab from the present 35 percent to just over 20 percent.
From page 42 of FLUG REVUE 2/2005
The Swiss have already replaced their F-5Es,how do you think Austria got theirs? Ex Swiss machines.This would leave only the F-18 in service with the Swiss AF,the Mirage IIIS/RS already were retired.Besides,I could br wrong,but why would switzerland operate both F-18 and Gripen? For a small country,with a limited defense budget,it makes no sense.
I was on the Chinese Forum and saw a couple interesting things.First was an artist’s impression of a Y-8 Gunship which resembles the AC-130H Spectre.It had a solid nose,with a FLIR sensor under the nose and a small radome on its left side.It was armed with 2x 20 or 30mm cannons,a 100mm howitzer and a 40mm cannon in that order.It aslo had the normal tailguns of the Y-8 as well.It has been reported that at least one,possibly more have been converted from Y-8 transports.There was also a pic of the two seat Q-5J Fantan.I would have to assume this is a night/all waether attack model as the Chinese as well as export countries use the JJ-6 Farmer as a trainer for the Q-5/F-6 series and the Q-5 has been in service for awhile without a trainer version,so a more advanced attack model would make sense.The example was unarmed,and had the underwing fuel tanks.The cockpit set up reminded me of the F-4 Phantom,with a large space between the pilot and the WSO/instructor in the back.
Nice waste of an MC-130H.
The Gripen program isn’t doing all that bad.Hungary,South Africa and the Czech Rep. have all selected the Gripen.Thailand I heard were going to order it to replace their F-5s.Bulgaria,Switzerland and Slovakia are also interested in the Gripen to replace their Mig-29s and F/A-18s.Informal discussions have also been held with India and Pakistan.
While it may noy be in serve with many countries yet,it does appear to be going better then the Eurofighter 2000 and Rafale programs as far as exports.
The Mig 1.44 Flatpack,nice