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October 30, 2008 at 10:35 pm in reply to: Dumb Spitfire Structure Question! #1237499

mackerel
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Does any of you great luminaries have the cross sectional dimensions for the intercostals/stringers fitted between Frame 11 and 12, and 12 and 13 please? Cheers!

Hi Tony the diamentions you want for these zed’s are .55″ x .9″ x .15″.

Steve

October 24, 2008 at 11:40 pm in reply to: Most original Spit? #1164760

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Steve,

It will, unfortunately, dilute the amount of original material present, though won’t it? Obviously if it’s necessary, it’s worth it, but it doesn’t change the fact that the percentage of original material will be reduced when the aircraft emerges after overhaul.

Ed

Hi Eddie , yes i agree an amount of originality will be lost. Hopefully ARCO will only replace the spar booms but who knows what they might find after 68 yrs. Steve

October 24, 2008 at 10:26 pm in reply to: Most original Spit? #1164883

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Steve

maybe now but in a few months maybe not

Hi bentwing , I wouldnt call overhall & re-spar messing with originality. If she needs this to keep her in the air then its got to be done. Call it TLC !!!

Steve

October 24, 2008 at 10:12 pm in reply to: Most original Spit? #1164904

mackerel
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Which TD248??? :p

Low back MKXVI, was silver with red flash. Would have thought P7350 was most origional & least messed with.

Steve

Steve

October 24, 2008 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Spitfire history ! #1164909

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Quote of the entire post immediately above removed as unnecessary – Moggy

Hi all, i have to agree with chumpy on this, there are hundreds of 502/509 drawings available for T9’s held at Hendon. I have been going through the list this week of ones we need.

Steve

October 23, 2008 at 10:22 pm in reply to: Supermarine paint #1165992

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I get the feeling that certain members are not taking this thread seriously!!…..It is in fact for real, the attached shot shows a genuine bit of the Castle Brom works.

The shy owner, plans to restore it and would like to get the colours correct. As you can see deep blue, once the faded surface is cut back. So does anyone know if there was a specific Vickers /Supermarine ‘house colour’?

I did check out the very excellent Putnam Guttering volume but alas no luck. For those interested in the subject I can recommend the recently published ‘Rogue Traders at War’ by Wayne Brickie.
This the little known story of the squads of highly untrained roofers that operated in occupied Europe during WW2, openly dislodging guttering and roof tiles then charging vast amounts to repair the damage.
Also mentioned is the Long Range Plumbing Group, driving far behind enemy lines often turning up some six hours late. One unfortunate Wehrmacht unit being charged some 5,000 Reichsmark just to change a tap washer!!

..Ill get my coat, Chumpy.

Hey Chris i’ve got tears running down my face !!!! And as for the rest of you ……. takers. It was a serious question !!!

Steve

October 21, 2008 at 1:15 am in reply to: What if ??? #1168804

mackerel
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Endless supply of money

I think a stuka would be a good project !!!

Steve

October 21, 2008 at 1:12 am in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1168807

mackerel
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great news, another Spit flies, a lot of hard work involved to bring another Spit to life, congrats to all.
here’s a question apart from SM969 which must be the next to fly soon, which Spit project is nearing completion & flight ??
so anybody care to enlighten me on another two Spits
– in what state is RW382, i thought it was involved in a fatal in the States ?? and wot is the status of PK624 ?? & is it at Duxford ??

Hi woodbridge yes good news about SM520. RW382 is in the early stages of rebuild. Dont know about PK624 !!

Steve

October 19, 2008 at 9:42 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1170245

mackerel
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not every part – there is plenty of what might be termed ‘secondary’ structure that doesnt require the ministrations of a stress engineer!

Bruce

Bruce, i wasnt infering every part. We rebuild in lots of original parts that once cleaned & inspected are fit for flight.

Steve

October 19, 2008 at 8:50 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1170306

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My question would be-how can the CAA believe that any of those scrapyard parts have been incorporated into the ‘restoration?’ -if they were, they’d never let it fly

Hi Oxcart, in a lot of instants its more of a quality management issue that parts are deemed fit for flight. If a part needs major repairs to make it airworthy then any repair would have to be ok’d by a stress engineer & a drawing of repair incorporated in aircraft delivery paper work. Going on what you are saying then the CAA would ground every historic aircraft flying.

Steve

October 19, 2008 at 8:41 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1170319

mackerel
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Just to add my congrats to the team….bringing an aircraft to airworthy status is such a team event with many links in the chain. From the finder, the owner/financier to the restorer and makers of sub assemblies and then the ‘driver’ and even the CAA….all are necessary.
Wish I had seen/heard it (only live 2 miles from the threshold and work at BD)…but spent all friday in A&E, oh well!!
Steve (mackeral), I have always said that when I win the lottery I will pay you to build me a beautiful Fuz like the many you have produced….would save me so much time and we could actually fly it lol!! In the mean time I will keep chuntering away on my static stuff….anyhoo, finally completed Frames 6 & 7 (minus the top flanges) yesterday.

Hi Rocketeer, yes lots of people in chain from start to finish. Exellent work by all concerned. You win the lottery & we’ll see what we can do !!!! Untill then keep up the good work on the static.

Steve

October 18, 2008 at 11:08 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1170992

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Wot, no gear doors??

First maiden flight I’ve ever seen of an aircraft that wasnt finished!

Especially as the gear doors suport the brake pipes??

Bruce

Yes , did wonder about those doors !!!!

Steve

October 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1171445

mackerel
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I’m with you now – and I understand what you say & agree, I’m a service manager for a “leading Japanese electronic company – with 4 letters in the name” so I’ll disagree on the customer bit though ! – but this is great though, another classic to fly – can’t ask for more than that !

Hi BSG, i didnt say i agree with the customer always being right !!! just the old saying “what the customer …ect ect” He who pays, plays the tune !!!

Steve

October 17, 2008 at 9:36 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1171939

mackerel
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Yes I can confirm the flight this afternoon. My contact at Thruxton txt’d me the details as they happened. Apparently Jonathan Whaley was the pilot for a successful ff. Congratulations to all concerned from all of us at Duxford. A fantastic achievement. Which will be next? TE184 or even SM969…;)

HI Roobarb & eveyone , another AA rebuild takes to the sky. Well done to Bruce & team at thruxton. Would liked to have seen happen !!!

Steve

October 17, 2008 at 9:14 pm in reply to: SM520 – High Power Engine Run #1171952

mackerel
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Is that a taste or from the restoration point of view? I always had the thought that Merlin Spitfires look “right” (a nice subjective term!) high backed, and Griffon Spitfires look “right” with a low back. I was just curious about what you said.

cheers

Hi BSG-75, my comment was from a restoration point of view. Its a low back XVI & should stay that way, thats my preferance anyway. Like they say the customer is always right !!!! I suppose the precident was set with TE 184 !!!

Steve
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