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  • in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2573304
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    Regarding R-35, it gives the MiG-23 rocket like climb, breathtaking acceleration and high sustained turn rate.

    Besides that it also allows the pilot not to worry about the engine behaviour at higher AoA and departures.

    That is what it is called of a true fighter engine.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2573310
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    Raptor’s unrefuelled combat radius comes out to about 850km (450NM). Supercruise speed is over Mach 1.8.

    You are overoptimistic.
    True, it is about 850 km but at subsonic speed.

    The max supercruise speed of F-22, achieved on test flights, is 1,5 Mach.
    It is about 1,4 Mach in service.

    The max possible speed of F-22 is about 2 Mach.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2573313
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    “Hello McFly, is anybody home?” We’re talking about engines. If we go stick that Foxhound engine on a Tu-95 and it can only do five hundred mph does that mean the engine sucks?

    It would be a missmatch.
    You have to put a supersonic engine to a supersonic aircraft.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2573322
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    The point is we’re talking about engines not aircraft.

    But the engines give the aircraft wanted performance.
    The engine and the aircraft are one.

    What the F-22 would be without F-119 engine.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2573326
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    Gladly. You are wrong. This thread is about engines not aircraft. If you want to tie the aircraft to it then the J58 would stomp your little Foxhound engine into the dirt. Thanks for playing, now take yourself back to your precious Foxbat thread.

    You can not sepparate the engines from the aircraft performances.

    For example, the SR-71 can only be tied to J-58.
    Or, MIG-31 to D-30F.

    If you want to know the quality of the engines, you have to see their effect to aircraft performance.

    Put any western engine in MiG-29 or SU-27, and these fighters will be limited to 40 to 50 degrees angle of attack.
    The Cobra maneuver will be ruled out.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2578177
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    That is what I call a “running gag”!

    Give me a figure of F/A-22’s combat radius at 2,0 Mach or at 1,6 Mach ?

    When you get this, you will appreciate extraordinary performance of MiG-31.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2578183
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    Supercruise is speed in max dry! None is surprised that you are not aware about that.

    Do not be too impressed with that.

    The SR-71 cruise at 3 Mach, in afterburner.

    I do not see that there are problems about that. And its radius of action is just fine.

    The F/A-22 is faster in cruise than, say, MiG-29, but it is much slower, again in cruise than MiG-31.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2578196
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    You left off one tinsy piece of information. The Mig-31 needs to be in AFTERBURNER to cruise at supersonic speed and the F-22 does not.

    That is true, but the point is to have as large as combat radius at as much as speed.

    The Mig-31 has 720 km combat radius at 2,35 Mach.

    Tell me what is combat radius of F-22 at 2,0 Mach ?
    Or at 1,8 Mach ?

    Let me remind you that BAC Lightning have had 1,2 Mach max speed at dry power.
    Do you think that, because of that, it had some combat advantage to the F-4 Phantom, which could do “only” 1,0 Mach ?

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2578197
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    The MiG-31 can cruise at supersonic speeds, but it cannot supercruise. Supercruise implies exceeding Mach 1 and sustaining supersonic speed while never using an afterburner.

    What is important is combat radius at high speed.

    The MiG-31 has 720 combat radius, with 4 missiles, at fantastic 2,35 Mach speed.

    With or without using afterburner, I firmly state that F/A-22 can not achieve that.
    Not even close.

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    That is less a function of the engine and more a function of the aircraft’s intake system and aerodynamics.

    It is in fact, matter of engine’s internal aerodynamics: pressure per compressor stage, compressor blade curvatures, etc.

    The engines of Mig-29 and SU-27 have internal oxygene supply system for the engines at disturbed airflow conditions.

    Did you know that ?

    Which western jet engine has that feature ?

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2579523
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    Give me one west’s jet engine which can endure 90 degrees AoA flight, in service, as can Mig-29 engine.

    Or 120 degrees AoA of SU-27.

    Or full circle around lateral axis, like the SU-37’s engines can endure.

    Than we will compare west’s and russian jet engines.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2579526
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    Which Russian engine is better than the F119 or F135.

    The D-30F6 of Mig-31 is, of course, much better.
    It gives Mig-31 ability to supercruise at 2,35 Mach with combat radius of 720 km.

    It also can push the Mig to 2,8 Mach.

    Give me the figures for a F-22.

    in reply to: The mighty R-35. Best Turbojet? #2580662
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    Actually, the Russians have always had a better fighter engines than West.

    -Many of their W.W.II fighter engines had direct fuel injection, a feature not available to american or british engines until the end of war.

    -The Nene in Mig-15 was far better and powerful that original, and in these times, for subsonic flights, centrifugal engines were better than axial ones, regarding sensitivity to firing plumes and throttle control.

    -The R-11, R-13 and R-25 had no west equvalent. They were very powerful, light, Mach 2 engines.

    Regarding R-35 it is true that, concerning, sheer thrust, both max and dry, and tolerance to fast throttle movements, it actualy has no west eqivalent either.

    The West has made a serious mistake firstly when TF-30 bomber engine has been put to a fighter.
    It is a very good engine for the F-111 but for the F-14 it was dissastrous.

    Inherent propensities of higher by-pass turbofans are: very long spool-up times, especially at higher altitudes and high sensitivity to fast throttle control.
    That render them a bad choice for a fighters.

    in reply to: YF-12/A-12/SR-71/MIG 25/MiG 31 thread #2596404
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    One example which shows what kind of interceptor the MiG-25 is:

    -At 18.000 m, the service ceiling of F-15C, the MiG-25P has climb rate of 100 m/s, with 4 long range missiles.

    A truly remarkable and outstanding performance.

    in reply to: YF-12/A-12/SR-71/MIG 25/MiG 31 thread #2596406
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    The F-106 wasn’t designed from the start to carry bombs. As for what it takes to be “an effective bombing machine” what exactly does the F-14D lack?

    The same thing which F-8 Crusader lacked in its time.
    The stability.

    in reply to: YF-12/A-12/SR-71/MIG 25/MiG 31 thread #2596413
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    You mean the one in which Belenko states they didn’t have a chance bringing the Blackbird down? Is that the one you mean? :diablo:

    No, I think these are the words of senator Keegan.

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