The one another source of F-104RB record:

-F-104, Steve Pace, 1992, , page 142:

“The 988 mph record was not recognised by FAI. He attempted another run in 1978 but crashed in a try.”

You do know the difference between a zoom climb and sustained altitude don’t you?

You will appreciate Mig-25 altitude records only if you see what are the max altitude records attained by american aircraft.

Do you know ? Confirmed.

Show me where the FAI says that has to be the case.

The FAI did not ruled this.
For record flights, all unneccessary equipment are deleted from aircraft to lower its weight.
The special care is taken, also, to smooth out the surface for lower drag.

Rostislav Belyakov, who would know a lot more about the MiG-25 than you, claims that it was the MiG-25 modified for record attempts as the Ye-266M that was specifically modified to achieve speeds of over Mach 3 without structural problems

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If you read the book “Mig”, you could see that Belyakov said that standard Mig-25 had no any problem to fly at 3,2 Mach. ( as been clocked by 6.american fleet over Israel 1972)
The Belyakov say that engines were in perfectly good shape after flight, which is undersandable, because Mig-25 can not possibly land with its engines ruined. It is not U-2. Anyone familiar with flight mechanics know that.

So now Kelly Johnson, who designed the Blackbird, is also lying just to spread propaganda? Just what sources do you consider to be credible

The Lockheed official data.

Do you know that british radar operaters detected and tracked SR-71 from about 400 km during its flight to Farnborough. What RCS we are talking about?

The John Barron must be wrong about the Mig-25. Afterall “The rule is that no aircraft can be faster in service than in record attempt.

Sure that John Barron is wrong. If you read his book, you will understand why. He has badly underrated Mig-25 in his book.
He put max range as 1200 km !!!

Sferrin, the service version of one aircraft can not be faster than one prepared to record flight.

You are the one, who questioned the truth of data from OKB MiG Belyakov, when you claim, the MiG-29 and MiG-31 could not reach 810 kt at sea level = Mach 1,225 by pointing to the FIA record reached by a F-4.

These are theoretical values. The structure could endure that dynamic pressure, but engines not.

Did Sageburner’s record really fall to Greenamayer’s F-104?

Looks like it did to me. Is the FAI engaging in some sort of propaganda just like every aviation author who discusses the Blackbird?

Look: http://www.aviation-history.com/garber/vg-bldg/grumman_F8F-1

Records are an interesting thing.
Mig-25 can only reach about 65,000ft with NO payload (curious to me how anybody could possibly think it could haul four AA-6s to 80,000ft) and the 1000kg record being held by a Gulfstream at about 55,000ft. So what does this tell us about the Mig-25?

Actually the A-12 was the fastest of the Blackbirds. But then if you’d actually done any research to back up these wild claims of your’s you’d know that.

Even John Barron in his book “Mig Pilot”, in which he badly underrated Mig-25, say that its service ceiling is 21 km with 4 missiles and 24 km with 2 missiles.

Regarding A-12 speed, for your information, bare in mind that J-58 engines are limited to 3,2 Mach in standard atmosphere ( 3,3 in cold one ).
Its compressor and turbine can not endure higher speed.
That is a Lockheed technical data.

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“The IR sensors were deleted to reduce drag during record flight”. Lockheed Blackbirds-Thornborough, Davies (in color pages)

SOC, during speed record attempt, every aircraft is specially prepared to reduce drag max possible.

About 3,2 Mach speed of YF-12, it could be documented, but is it confirmed ?
You can put in a document everything you want.

The document say that AIM-47 has range of 120 miles. Who can prove it ?

The rule is that no aircraft can be faster in service than in record attempt.
Simply because of special preparations.

The engine thrust is not an issue in YF-12. Do you know that SR-71 fly at 3,2 Mach at minimum afterburner, but it is its max speed in standard atmosphere.

The book “Mig pilot” has not writen by Belenko but John Barron.
There are many misinformations there. Such as:
-“The engines of Mig-25 are wrecked every time when it attain over 3 Mach.” OKB Mig chief designer say that this is not true and that its engines are perfectlly well after Mach 3 flight. Also, I did not hear that Indian or Bulgarian pilots had trouble with engines after Mach 3 flights.
-The max subsonc range is stated as 1200 km. True figure is 1750 km on int fuel and about 2500 with ext tank. Etc, etc.

The book has no value as data source. It is a propaganda literature.

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