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  • in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479826
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    Most turbojet aircraft are “limited by decree”.

    No,no. The jet engines are limited, at high altitudes, by the inlet tempetrature, not by decree.
    For exmple, the limit is 130 degrees C for F-4E and 427 degrees C for SR-71.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479835
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    It’s irrelevant how manueverable it is compared to the SR-71 as it’s not gonna be dogfighting any other M3 aircraft. A C-130 is probably more agile than the SR-71. The Mig 25 is a dog when compared to true fighters in terms of agility.

    Is it possible that you don’t see the importance of maneuverability in the interceptor a/c ?

    The YF-12 failed in that field, among others. Can you imagine it doing Immelmans, split-s, loops, etc. Or fast take offs. !!!

    The Mig-25 is capable of doing all maneuvers and that is why it achieved to shoot down american and isreali a/c in aerial combat, when it was greatly outnumbered.
    It was so fast and high flying that even AWACSs could not detect it, until too late.
    And after that, it was so swift and maneuverable to evade many missiels.

    Absolutely impossible to do with YF-12.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479841
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    I don’t believe him because he’s full of crap.

    Why do you think so?
    He is American general and he certainly would have not said that if it had not been true.

    Remember also that it was stated in the book “MIG Pilot”.

    Like I said, people were stupid, correlating the maximum range of the missile with the test launches and assuming that the missiles were tested at that range.

    Did you ever ask yourself, why the full supposed potential of AIM-47 missiles were never tested ?
    And the public was led to believe that the YF-12 could hit targets at over 100 miles !!!

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479842
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    But at the same time the Israeli-US information about the “Mach 3.2” is a sure thing for you? Was the radar station manned by the Neue Züricher Zeitung or what?

    You forgot that the 6.th fleet also tracked it at that speed.
    What about IAF sources? They are wrong too?

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479865
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    Non manual did claim that except that of the F-14D for a special reason. 😉

    For the benefit of the others. That “speed reduction” is related to the inlet-system. The USN did so to reduce the life-time costs without limiting true performances. The new AAMs are no longer in need of an extra high launch speed behind Mach 1,6-1,8. See the design speed of all new fighters.
    The F-14A was neither by the airframe nor the propusion system limited to Mach 2,4.

    Sens, this is not the reason.
    The F-14A manual also says the speed limit was 1.9 Mach.

    Do you know that, by limiting the speed to below Mach 2, the other performance figures also are lowered. The acceleration in particular, which is very important to every fighter.

    It is no wonder that general Boyd, americans top test fighter pilot, and TOP GUN instructor, said:
    “The F-14 was underpowerd aerial truck. When it lose energy in dogfight it run out of options.”

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479866
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    And what has the MiG-25 ever achieved??

    By the way, The F-14 is still in Iranian service, how many MiG-25s are in service around the world at the present time?:rolleyes:

    If you did not know, the Mig-25 was exported to many countries.

    What the Mig-25 achieved? I can’t believe your question.

    It denied americans to collect aerial photos and other data over many areas, according to american generals.
    That alone could be more than enough.

    Besides, it downed american and israeli fighters in aerial combat, in enviroments where it was greatly outnumbered and without AWACS a/c support which americans always had.

    Imagine the Mi-25PDs versus equal number of F-15 or F-18.
    It would be a carnage.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479868
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    What makes you say that the Zaslon is more advanced than either of the American radars? I doubt if the electronics or processing power of the 1970s era Zaslon are an improvement on the 1960s era AWG-9. Just because the Zaslon has a PESA antenna doesn’t make it automatically any more capable, does it?

    Of course it does.
    Do you know something about phased array radars?

    The Zaslon radar has such tremendous and unequalled capabilities, that any comparison with F-14 is meaningless.

    It has 1 milisecond scann rate, versus 13 seconds for AWG-9 !!!
    Track While Scann sector is 70 x 70 degrees for Mig31 and about 10 x 15degrees for F-14.
    Do you know what does it mean? Difference is too big.
    Because of such great tracking rate , it can effectively guide 4 missiles at once, at great distances, more than 200 km.

    Not just Phoenix! How many kills did the R-73, R-27, R-23, or any other Soviet missile achieve in that war or any other conflict in the last 20 years?

    How many opportunities they had compared to americans?
    The R-60M was the better A-A close range missile than any comparable western missile, and R-73 was 20 years ahead of anything else in its class.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479871
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    – I still can’t find evidence of a Phoenix shot on a Mi-8 – if there was I apologize.

    It was Mi helicopter, probably Mi-8.

    – Anyone who believes that the F-14 cannot guide 6 Phoenix at once really needs to do some research other than Wikipedia.

    It demonstrated this on tests, but remember that it was in very narrow sector, limited by AWG-9 very small TWS angles, and in strictly controlled enviroment.

    In service it was limited to 2 Phoenixes.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2479886
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    it is not allowed to fly faster than Mach 2.83.

    Of course it is allowed. See what Indian Air force said.
    Bear in mind that the 2.83 Mach is exactly 3000 km/h. A round figure set by decree.
    A true performances could be seen from the Indian Air Force sources and Israelis.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480105
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    But your major prove is the MiG-25 that overflew Israel “with M3.2”, and I guess that was one of these “early versions”.

    I did not track it, but Israelis and the 6.th fleet.

    You are quoting basic jet engine knowledge, so you should know what pressure ratio means is good for (and what happens if an engine doesn’t have much of it).

    I know that very, very good.
    But, do you know that Mirages 3 to 2000 also have very low pressure ratio, as MIG-25 ?

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480133
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    Belenkov said his speed limits were M2.5 or M2.8, the latter in war times.

    No,no. That was stated by John Barron in his book “Mig Pilot”.
    What Belenko said we didn’t know.

    As you can see, if you have this book, Barron say that Belenko say that the Mig-25 has 1200 km max range !!!!!

    It is not true. As the Mig-25 pilot, Belenko would not say that nonsense.

    The book is a hoax.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480139
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    Nope, actually the guys who made this document:
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    These 320 pages of detailed aerodynamic and propulsion data might be a false propaganda of the diabolic West.

    You may note that this document refers to very first version, “which entered in 1970” as it is stated. With the first engines. Check it.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480149
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    I guess if they had achieved more kills, the Navy would have ordered hundreds of F-14 more.

    No, but it would be serving in active service for many years more.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480151
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    Following that logic, the MiG-25 is no Mach3 aircraft at all, because it is not allowed to fly faster than Mach 2.83. Same with the F-14: Mach 1.9 is the limit given by the flight manual, if it is truly a performance limit, no one knows.

    Not so.
    As I said, the F-14D pilots report in Aviation Week, say the speed limit was 1.88 Mach.

    The MiG-25’s turbojets are a very good example of engines that are useful for high Mach numbers but for nothing else. With an SFC of about 1.5 for normal subsonic flight, the pilot didn’t need to take the distant maps with him.

    It is a common hoax.
    In fact its propulsion system allows normal fighter maneuvers, which no other Mach 3 aircraft can do.
    This fact alone must be regarded as exceptional.

    As for range, you must note that it has only about 14 tonnes of internal fuel, and SR-71 38 tonnes.

    in reply to: The MiG-25 Unsurpassed interceptor #2480182
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    The MiG-25 is the only Mach3-aircraft that is not allowed to fly Mach 3.
    That is something you truly cannot find in the pathetic West.

    Says who? John Barron in his false book Mig Pilot?

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