theres (as iv accessed) at least 2 files relating to AFVG. on open access at Kew, interesting background material and well worth a looksee
cheers, joe
ill try scan some of the AFVG. and later go it alone UKVG. stuff from the files and post it up, another source is the excellent ‘secretprojects.co.uk’ which has a thread on the type
hiyas ‘choix’ ill try get an email over asa, pretty hectic past weeks this end, cheers joe
http://www.aviationancestry.co.uk/?home/&searchQuery=Sealand&startYear=…
Im guessing this is where the original note of a possible ‘Admirals Barge’ Sealand came from back on page 1 of the thread? Im assuming a ‘personal’ evaluation of the type for the role?
Like others, i cannot see any documented use of the type by the Royal Navy in any other published papers :/

Many thanks for the feedback, i agree the ‘dot’ being an abbreviation anglacism, il hopefully remember to keep adding the ‘dash’ in the designator
One interesting snippet from the files at Kew re naming the F-111K for RAF. service was that it was to be called ‘Merlin’ after the bird of same (its wings changing geometry when diving)
Again many thanks, Joe
If anyone out there comes across an example for sale please give me a shout, im actually currently writing up a technical history of the F.111K Merlin, and am interested in pretty much anything connected to the project
cheers, Joe
that Gulfstream sounds interesting, any piccies ?
cheers, Joe
iv been keeping an eye on the various magazines, forums, etc. pretty much nothing new informationwise as far as i can see. the Hornets presented for display at this years airshow were pretty much as per standard with no hint of air to surface fitment
does anyone out there have any photographs of XR221 (or indeed XR222) apart from during assembly? both aircraft were out of the jigs at cancellation, indeed according to the files XR221 was virtually a completed airframe awaiting checkout ???
‘XR222’ as delivered to Cranfield was pretty much a hybrid of a number of airframes, the main wings being definately XR222, the tips reportedly XR227? and the fuselage ? possibly that of the final test specimen? (the rear fuselage being unmarked is an interesting anomaly as there are photos in the files of the rear fuselage units painted and marked at the factory up to XS660 so XR222 should have borne its serial too!)
i have been looking for any confirmed images for over 15 years now in various archives, they definately seem to have been ‘weeded’ ? hoping someone on here may come up with something ?
cheers, Joe
Damien’s long awaited book just arrived through the letterbox this morning… thunk!
… an excellent volume and definately what can be considered a definative work on the type, i an pleasantly surprised to see a few pics and items of new material to me too, eg. Lightning trainer proposal, TSR.2 ADV. etc. amazing research indeed :thumbsup:
ill do a proper read through later today but no real crits as yet, looks an excellent volume indeed, amazingly well produced too setting what should be a new standard for works of this type (id love a biblography tho)
a definate 5 star rating methinks
a good year for those interested in the aircraft with both Tim McLelland’s forementioned volume and Damien Burke’s too both coming from different viewpoints and depth and both useful additions to the bookshelf
cheers, Joe Cherrie
a 10-15 minute walk from the main airport building (altho there is a carpark bus which can take you there too, just ask the driver, most speak good english)
definately well worth a visit, i go at least once a year, always something id previously missed to see too as theres soo many types crammed in (a ‘proper’ old fashioned museum!)
Sten Olaf the curator is a decent chap too and very helpful, if its a quiet day you may get a chance to have a loksee at the storage hanger too with Gnat, Mig, Valmet, etc.
no worries Tim, thanks for the clarification, iv passed some paperwork over to a colleague who will be in touch re that other matter we discussed too, i will make sure he gets your name correct. I used your previous name there as well as your current as a few of us older chaps have your previously published books !
thanks, Joe Cherrie
the whole B.2 espionage thing seems to have been a ‘non story’ designed to grab some headlines with the great unwashed and securing defence funding in the US. the ‘story’ was ‘picked up’ by the media who gave it more credence that it deserved
as an aside, i know of a few institutions with actual panels from the aircraft as instructional pieces re which noone has expressed concern of possible misuse, grrr typical redneck reporting
i dont see the point trying to make any of the later marks from the Dragon F.3 kit heres hoping the manufacturer will bring out further variants saving us the trouble cross kitting with the old Frog/Novo F.4 or Matchbox later NF. kits!
For making an F.3 into an F.4, the main changes are the engines being of the long nacelle type and the wings being cropped, possibly the Frog kit may be a useful parts donor
later types T.7, F.8, FR.9 had a forward fuselage extension, as well as redesigned tail on the latter
Best thing to do with the model is to build from the kit and enjoy the extra detailing Dragon has crammed in, altho id go with something different re final finish, possibly a hooked RN. example or even one of the early radar testbeds
re. Finnish ASM.’s
I noticed that the 2 seat MDD. F.18D at the recent Tampere air show had the Litening designator pod fitted to its centreline pylon, altho with what weapons being trialled with it i am unsure? any help?
recent magazines and press releases are also showing trials being undertaken with JSOW. altho as far as im aware no decision re purchase has been made as yet?
Does anyone out there know of any images showing other current Finnish Hornet weapons trials fitments? Taurus? SLAM-ER? JDAM? HARM? LGB.’s?
kiitos, Joe