I am a lurking in the shadows afficianado ever since I understood that the Master was the key step up from Tiger Moths in the FTS system for those selected for fighter pilot training. My father, who went on Oxfords, in the bomber pilot stream, was stationed in a Polish RAF training school with Oxfords and Masters where he once remarked that he had the task of identifying the remains of a friend who crashed in a Master. This lost pilot would, I think, be completely forgotten, if not for the quiet recollection of a 100 year old man in Australia. Last year, in between a visit, I found the airfield, now an unmarked industrial park, and, despite all the discouraging no trespass signs, stood on the end of the grass and spoke the dead pilot’s name.
I think the great untold story of WW2 is how many pilots died in training.
The Master, being timber, would be eminently buildable, if you had an eccentric with a little space and a lot of time. There are some quite wonderful photographic essays on Master construction in various editions of Aircraft Production. I think I have decided that I do not have enough lifetime left to get drawn into a Master project, and it is essentially a British story, from the industrial and wartime perspective. I could probably focus on providing a Kestrel XXX, if somebody else focused on the matchwood attached to it. It would be a good way to remember the forgotten pilot who went in at RAF Newton.
“I think we found 2 pieces of steel structure from J9590, plus the odd bracket. The most recognisable part is the prop boss, with the slots for the Hucks starter. Talking of rusty bits of long-extinct aeroplanes, I think we still have a box of the mortal remains of an Armstrong Whitworth Atlas. Again, not enough to form a proper project, but useful clues on how a specific aeroplane was built. It’s possible to glean quite a lot of information from contemporary patents and journals of course, but scraps of structure are invaluable.”
Mark,
Couldn’t tempt you with something for some of these bits….:eagerness:worth sending you a PM?
Beermat, we are talking different applications of the term pressure, ie PSI (wing loading) as distinct from inches (or mm) of mercury or water displacement in a tube, applied to manifold pressure in an engine. The mystery gauge is quite conventional in that application. Of the 23 roller bearings in the 1930Â’s RR Kestrel, and probably Peregrine, half the dimensions are in croissant, typically half imperial, half metric in the one bearing. All the bearings are Specials, made expressly by Hoffmanns for application in that engine, so they are RR specified. Why? Maybe to force you to buy OEM replacement bearings only…maybe they figured that these wear components were so performance critical, they could prevent both Arthur Daly and Dodgy Pierre supplying aftermarket bearings, then dealing with warranty claims that eventually reveal a basis in cheap, substandard bearings.
I would believe that the British would not condescend to use the metric system of the perfidious continentals except half the dimensions in RR engine bearings seem to be metric. At the end of the day it has more practical flexibility than 64ths…I am familiar with inches or mm on the ‘water gaugeÂ’ from the design of street sweeper ‘vacuumÂ’ systems, which are ‘old schoolÂ’ British engineering in the antipodes. Mr Dyson probably has a water gauge next to his coffee pod machine.
dh, BS, in the context given, is not British Standard. I know in the same way that Jesus knew the brand of the nails that pinned him to the cross…It would be good to locate a Bristol Standard folder, which would provide dimensions, material specs (probably BACA! Be good to find a BACA folder!). Surely this was not all thrown out….
Isn’t this just a standard manifold pressure gauge, except precise for precise calibration? Ie 25mm gives you 25 points of measurement, rather than 1 inch giving you 1 point of measurement. So the gauge would be logical in a calibration device for standard supercharger gauges, or fitted to a new engine installation requiring precise feedback…
Thanks AA. T-T, not off topic nor a silly question. The silly parts are the number of proprietary classification systems for the same material or object. In other words each manufacturer (or service arm in the case of the USA) would come up with their own naming system. I am not familiar with BS ( except in Australian vernacular) but I presume it may be Bristol Standard. What aircraft is it? DeHavilland has DHS (DH Standard) and Hawker has A Std parts as an example of a proprietory naming system for the kinds of standard lego that may have featured across their designs. This mania for coming up with your own naming system extends to materials , eg CA Standards for Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation, PW Standards for Pratt & Whitney, Rolls Royce material standards and BACA material Standards for Bristol. The BACA material for the 1960’s T188 supersonic jet is the same stuff as a 1935 Cheetah exhaust manifold and this is the same as a weatherstrip on the jumbo that takes you on a holiday today, but you will never know by reference to any of the literature. It doesn’t help practical restoration progress or safety. So for a dumb system, asking dumb questions is the right thing to do.
Mark, thanks for replying re J9590. There is no such thing as Bulldog remains that look anything like an aeroplane, bar K2228 in the RAF Museum. The wing ribs were corrodible .009″ thick steel and the fuselage members were not much more substantial. There is no choice but to build a new structure and some Spitfires may have started from less. It would be good to at least start with something original and a good story, if it was ever done. Would you swap some rusty Bulldog bits for something that looks more like an aeroplane thing for display ?
Thanks ex Brat and Beermat – there are some pressings that can only be obtained with more ductile 2014, so stoop they must, or be perplexed with wrinkles and shrinkers…
NB – If the old Standard pages are cached on your computer, you may have to refresh to see the new Standards.
Standards recently located but not organized or digitized include AGS in the 200-600 series, interwar US Army Air Corps – these will not appear till end 2018, if there is enough stamina…
Vickers Aviation
The Vickers Aviation Products catalogue from 1929 captures much of the detail and features of British aircraft from the interwar and early WW2 period : Vickers Potts Oil Coolers, two way and three way valves, flying wires, fasteners, oleo -pneumatic struts…if only they could be purchased today!
Rolls Royce and Hiduminium materials
Hiduminium (‘High Duty Aluminium’ by High Duty Alloys Ltd) materials form an intrinsic part of the Rolls Royce (and other) engine manufacturing stories. Ultimately High Duty Alloys was incorporated into the Rolls Royce group of companies and are often identified by the RR prefix. Most cast components of the Merlin engine were made from RR50. Understanding these materials and how they allowed more horsepower to be obtained for less weight are a big part of the 20th century British engine story.
Japanese WW2 Materials
A remarkable analysis by Australia’s Department of Aircraft Production (DAP) in 1946 engaged translators in transcribing wartime Japanese Material standards and these were then compared and matched with wartime British and US standards. This document provides the most detailed forensic engineering analysis of Japanese wartime aircraft structures, with further BIOS reports dealing with Japanese engines. These BIOS reports are quite complimentary of the workmanship and materials in Japanese radial engines. Today, these structures are a ‘lost world’ in engineering terms and it is very difficult to penetrate into Japanese literature to find answers, particularly because the written Japanese of the time varied from region to region. To me, it is amazing to accept the idea that a Japanese person might not have been able to read some information written in another region in 1945. A fluent Japanese speaker of today must grapple with archaic regional dialects and a historic, obscure, technical language. I have tried to have Japanese technical data plates translated today by university level speakers and it is hard, slow work to translate terms such as ‘hydraulic reservoir’. Finally there is enough information here to provide a comprehensive English language guide to the identification and substitution of wartime Japanese materials.
This engineering information was purposefully destroyed in postwar Japan as the fascist war machine was de-fanged. Even today, the restoration of wartime Japanese aircraft in modern Japan generates mixed emotions. I acknowledge these feelings but also think that without the physical evidence of the Pacific War, in the form of restored Japanese wartime aircraft, this part of history will be harder to tell and re-tell to a younger generation.
British Standards
A fine vein of inetrwar and WW2 era British Standards emerged from the Kerle collection, formerly used by the RAAF. In particular A Standards dealing with fasteners, B Standards dealing with Brass, D & F Standards dealing with Doping and Fabric, K Standards dealing with Cast Iron, early L Standards for Aluminium, early S and T Standards for steels and tubes, SP Standards for fork joints, tie rods and rivets, V Standards for plywoods, W standards for control wires and X Standards for paints. An additional page deals with Cancellations and Substitutions of British Standards through various eras, providing a roadmap for the evolution of British materials.
DTD Standards
Over 750 DTD Standards are now available, including wartime originals, as well as an Index that can assist in identifying which DTD Standards eventually became British Standards. A common inquiry is DTD390, Alclad, which most 1936-1945 British structures were made of. Unfortunately an original DTD390 standard has yet to be located, but by reference to to the documents in the Substitution Page, a link to US 24ST, or today’s 2024, may be obtained. A researcher must be careful to understand the difference between Alclad 2024 and 2014, a lower strength, far more ductile material, in following this journey.
Often the difference between 2024 and 2014 was a further run through a mill, to work harden 2014 into 2024. As mill time was valuable during the war, the preference, in British design thought, may have been to use a 2014 grade, rather than the more expensive (in time and money) 2024. This becomes relevant today when some British structures require bending into forms that only the more ductile 2014 can achieve, where the less ductile 2024 may buckle or resist a satisfactory result.
Wartime Alclad in the UK was often 2014, while wartime Alclad in the US was often 2024. In 1940, one country was in a desperate struggle for survival while another country had more time and space to allow double conversion into 2024 and indulge a ‘do it right first time’ design and build philosophy. Many US structures were designed from the outset as 2024 structures while many British structures were designed from the outset as 2014 structures. In Australia, much 2024 Alclad came from the US, and was applied to 2014 UK designs such as the Beaufort and Beaufighter. US and UK sheetmetal gauges were also different. How US materials were adapted to British designs depended on the geometry of the structure. Some 2014 shapes could not be obtained in ‘stiffer’ 2024. Some 2014 thicknesses could be reduced by the use of ‘stronger’ 2024.
We do live in a US material world today. US materials are often more available and at a lower cost, which is a great thing. It is unremarkable that a historic British, German or Japanese structure may be made from US materials with different mechanical characteristics and different gauges, in comparison to the original. By understanding the non US original, a more informed basis can be made on the safe selection of modern US materials.
Australian Emergency Standards
Australian Emergency Standards were issued by the Standards Association of Australia and are often verbatim reprints of wartime British and DTD Standards, so a good cross reference for aircraft of the WW2 period. Included within this body of work is the fascinating development of native Australian timbers as substitutes for unobtainable European or North American timbers. The tourist of today visiting the stunning Daintree Rainforest National Park, near the Great Barrier Reef, will not realize that the area was first reserved by the government as a source of wartime aircraft timbers !