No he said as good as a Tornado…go on go back and read his paragraph…

I can almost hear the axe you are grinding from here.

My apologies and well spotted. I of course meant the Tornado when replying to mrmalaya saying “Tornado is as capable as the F15E which the USAF are counting on in the near future.”

I’ve no axe to grind though. Just a realistic assesment of the facts, facts that some fans don’t like to accept.

I see a bit of selective reading there Belethor,

Not really, unless the Typhoon Canada intends to operate doesn’t need servicing, fuel, crews, training etc etc. It is still going to work out mighty expensive even if you buy into the costs to build up the fleet, which I should need to point out will hit them in the same way too. Fact is it isn’t a cheap jet to operate.

Tornado is as capable as the F15E which the USAF are counting on in the near future.

Typhoon is going (within the next couple of years) to be able to take on the responsibility of most PGM carriage as well as its current A2A duties being augmented by introduction of an AESA.

The concept of it being a failure is flawed in my opinion for this reason- the world has changed.

Typhoon as good as a Strike Eagle? You’re having a laugh mate, even a Tonka crewman will tell you it just isn’t in the same league.

And when you say “The concept of it being a failure is flawed in my opinion for this reason- the world has changed”
Well, i’d agree with you that the world has changed, changed into a a world where A-G is now far more important in 99% of operations than A-A and yet here we are stuck with Typhoon in its present state. It really is a sorry state of affairs.
We should never have bothered with it in the first place and just bought the Rafale instead all those years ago, that way we’d have a true multirole jet and not a fraud.

I don’t agree at all.

It’s exactly as multi role as it needs to be for now. We still have a very capable and versatile A2G platform in Tornado.

The trouble with that line of thinking is that Tornado just doesn’t cut it against a near-peer opponent in this day and age. I think people need to accept the fact that Typhoon has failed to mature into a multirole jet instead of making excuses for it.

Not so important in WVR – the fight will take place in subsonic speed regime, where the Su-27 has advantageous.

The point of my post was to correct a common misconception about the Flanker but as we’re here I have to say I can’t figure out what you’re saying when you said “the fight will take place in subsonic speed regime”, what fight and why would it have to go WVR??? You’ve lost me.

LOL
Where’re the A/G capabilities promised for YEARS ?
So yes, here we go AGAIN…

Indeed, the Typhoon really is a multirole-failure, best to ignore the apolagists.

Edited to add that the Typhoon is still an amazing A-A jet, can’t knock it in that respect except for the out dated (but still capable) radar set.

Typhoon can drop PGM’s, this report is talking about the integration of further PGM not yet in service with Typhoon.

But after all these years of service and yet there is still issues with Typhoon in the A-G role??? Not good advertising for the Typhoon.