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March 10, 2011 at 1:09 am in reply to: Seen On Ebay Thread #1092453

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Mystery stick grip

It is most certainly not from a P-40, but what is it from?

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March 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Amelia Earhart DNA tests inconclusive #1098859

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Andy,

Any possibility that the snake, if not Amelia herself, will appear at the Aerojumble this month? Then again, perhaps a display of turtle bones, shoe parts and cream jars will be attraction enough.

Steve

P.S. Let me know about the flyers.

February 28, 2011 at 12:48 am in reply to: Seen On Ebay Thread #1104086

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This item has to be good for a “few” opinions!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/battle-britain-relic-/220746602515?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item336585d813

The artwork depicted is very famous indeed. This looks very familiar to something I owned many years ago….I would love the chance to examine it..especially the flip side.

If it is one and the same, it was a bargain then at 50pounds and I thought it was too good to be true when it walked into a Tangmere aerojumble being held by the friend of a very joviable and larger than life character.

I am not saying it is the same one, but if I was interested in it, I would have a good look at it. Some idea of scale would be beneficial.

February 25, 2011 at 2:04 am in reply to: Original Battle of Britain Paintwork #1106710

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Nice data plate on the 109 elevator!

I like how they used two rivets (and corresponding plate attachment holes) on the left side, but only one rivet (between the holes in the plate) on right side, as the airfoil section tapered towards the trailing edge; that plate was going nowhere.

So, the Werk Nr. on the plate is not that of the airplane?

February 16, 2011 at 1:34 am in reply to: German stick grip – what type? #1117330

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Have a look here:

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/index-englisch.htm

Go to Equipment catalogue, Equipment type, Weapon controls, Control sticks / wheels . . .

I do not see your specific type, but other turret control/gun-firing grips may bee seen (e.g., SG 5, SG 7A/B).

January 16, 2011 at 12:13 am in reply to: Dornier Do17 Data Plate? #1155932

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Gents,

Thank you for the replies.

Here’s a close up. Definitely not a main plate, no airplane W.Nr. to be seen. However, confirming the type, “17 Z” is entered in the upper left. Interesting, the maker of the item the plate came from is “Land- u. See Leichtbau” – another sub-supplier of Do17 parts is identified. The plate shows physical distress (a cut, scratches and nicks), but no sign of long term in-ground exposure. There is no paint overspray, obverse, or overrun, reverse.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to the Then and Now reference. Would someone please tell me if photos of this incident are shown in that book and if mention is made of the site being excavated post war? If it was dug, what items were recovered?

Thank you,
Steve

January 7, 2011 at 9:48 am in reply to: Battle Of Britain Dornier Part #1094011

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Actually, it’s a kit, Airfix I think, or was it Frog – anyway, 1:1 scale. My son, “Claus” (17 at the time), made it at a Do17 parts replication workshop last September (an annual event here in the U.S., held since 1940 in Oberpfaffenhofen, Florida). The light blue color (which never appears correct on computer monitors), Humbrol something or other, came from a tiny tin. He also came home with a kit for an engine cowing door which he finished a week or so ago, come to think of it not too long before this thread started. It sold on eBay, a buyer in the UK I believe.
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January 7, 2011 at 3:36 am in reply to: Battle Of Britain Dornier Part #1094233

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Informative, enjoyable thread. The service access panel is superb, and, more than ever, purely Do17. While on the subject, here’s a portion of Do17P skin with an ID plate fitted; I hope there’s no debate on this one!

December 31, 2010 at 2:36 am in reply to: Battle Of Britain Dornier Part #1101291

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With help from some fine members of the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board, it appears that four companies were responsible for Do17 production: Dornier (at Oberpfaffenhofen and Friedrichshafen), Sieble at Halle, Henschel at Berlin-Schönefeld and Hamberger Flugzeugbau (HFB) at Hamburg; HFB was a subsidiary of Blohm & Voss.

This suggests that AEG (Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft) was responsible for parts used on the Do17, but not final production assembly. Depending on the type and number of AEG Do17 parts, this may account for the relative “scarcity” of surviving AEG plates marked to the type.

In addition to another Henschel example, here are Do17 plates from the other three principle sources. For comparison, an AEG Ju88 plate is shown also.

Is it possible that Do17 W.Nr. 2653 was a UK casualty?

December 29, 2010 at 2:32 am in reply to: Battle Of Britain Dornier Part #1103328

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Thank you for the close-up of the plate. It is the first AEG Do17 plate I have seen; by comparison, AEG Ju88 plates are common. Also confirmed by surviving plates, several other companies were involved in Do17 production, including Henschel and Blohm & Voss. A Henschel example (Do17P), still attached to a cut piece of aluminum skin, is shown here. Unfortunately, I do not have the history for this relic, and no W.Nr. is indicated.

Have you determined if any pre- or post-crash photos of W.Nr. 3358 exist?

Hi Steve, see below. Let me know if its not clear enough and i will send it to your email. The work number is stamped in the top left hand corner.

Tenthije……thanks for the translation, very interesting.

December 28, 2010 at 8:53 pm in reply to: Battle Of Britain Dornier Part #1103510

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Terrific relics! I collect data and identification plates from Luftwaffe airplanes. I would really enjoy seeing a close-up photo of the Do17 plate. Can you help?

Thank you,
Steve

November 9, 2010 at 3:47 am in reply to: Newark Yesterday! #1155152

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Andy, Howard,

Thanks so much for sharing the info regarding the data plates. Luftwaffe plates are a “passion” of mine; any and all information is welcome. Always interested in seeing photos too.

With regards,
Steve

P.S. Are there any plate collectors/holders on the Forum? Feel free to contact me to share information and photos; ask questions, talk it up, etc.

November 7, 2010 at 8:53 pm in reply to: Newark Yesterday! #1157425

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Andy,

While I am sure I would have enjoyed the day there looking about, the journey to and from was bit too much starting in the States. Can you say what the turn out of Luftwaffe data/identification plates was? (Just don’t tell me I missed a Do215 example!)

Steve

October 16, 2010 at 5:52 pm in reply to: Top Gun II headed your way soon ! #1106761

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Just like Viper said . . . “And if you screw up just this much, you’ll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog s*** out of Hong Kong!”

It’s got Dog**** written all over it……

October 5, 2010 at 10:33 am in reply to: Do215 Losses and Plates #1119096

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Hi Andy,

Appreciate that you enquire of them. A plate marked 8-215 has been (to me) a sort of “holy grail”. That assumes that plates peculiar to the type existed, rather than being mostly, if not all, stamped 8-17 due to the evolution of the two models.

I look forward to, hopefully, hearing more via your contacts.

Thanks again,
Steve

P.S.
You are right, that splendid group of plates you offered, just about covered the entire waterfront of types, but none from the Do215. The lot made me and a number of other collectors quite happy!
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