Like I said it is debateable and just because you say it is true doesn’t make it so. The argument bores me.

Could you clarify exactly what youre trying to say. This thread is about favorite planes in Il-2. My favorites are the russian fighters which I think have been overlooked by sims for a long time. There are no American, German, British or Japaneese fighters that could match their climb and their maneuverability. A few of the late war powerhouses like the Sea Fury, Ta-152, Mustang could out do them with speed, but not by much. They were better than any WW2 fighter in all around dogfighting, especially the Yak-3 which german pilots were ordered to avoid engaging, and run from. Its a well deserved honor for these fighters to be in such a high quality sim, and its a previlage to be able to fly them with such realistic flight physics.
I suppose youre going to go on about how this is “hearsay” because I havent actually flown these planes.

Yak 3 is contemporary to other late war aircraft as it entered service in 1944. Lets have climb rate/dive rate/top speed/turn rate/etc comparisons rather than the rather confusing ‘best’ moniker. Most of the ‘best’ Russian birds were ‘possibly’ late war while many of the aircraft you compare them to and dismiss ‘might’ be an earlier war vintage. Take the Mk14 Spit (1944). In my opinion it will, in the right hands, win against most of your Russian types but thats just my opinion it doesn’t make it true. On the other hand I might be right. Your argument is presented as fact that cannot be argued against which it quite obviously can be.

I want! I want! I want! Can’t see a release date yet though.

I find it offensive that alot of people complain about lack of certain fighters in Il-2. The russians made the best fighters in WW2, no doubt. And the russian theater of war was by far the most hard fought of that war, as well as the ultimate match of mass produced technology. So their really should be a sim devoted to just that part of the war. I love flying the Yaks and La-5s and their couterpart Me-109 and Fw-190. I was dissappointed at the distribution of types in original IL-2 with like about 12 different types of IL-2s and other obscure russian models, and only 1 La-5 and a couple of Yaks. But that has been straightened out for the most part with FB.

Well I know this is going to start some kind of argument but it isn’t meant to. Yes the Russians made some of the best fighters of WW2 but THE best? That is open to debate. I think that the original IL2 was intended by Oleg and the team to highlight the war on the Eastern Front and that it did so to such a large degree should give him and the mob a fair degree of recognition by no lesser organisation than the Russian state! By saying that the Russian theatre was the hardest fought should not take away from other theatres of war at that time either. Later additions such as the Western theatre, I think is intended to keep the money coming in because if it doesn’t then 1C might go under and that would be a worse kind of tragedy. On the whole though I can’t argue with your sentiment. 🙂

Ok, no one knows. But how do you guys find this compares graphically to the latest WWII flight sims?

I haven’t had a copy of this for ages but it was certainly one I enjoyed. They did however give the Spit which was a MkIX the performance and the characteristics of a MkV with the 1250hp engine. It was supposed to be the Merlin 6x series with over 1600hp! As for the graphics, like I said I haven’t played if for a long time and although I was impressed back then, I was also impressed with EAW but compare that to IL2 and it leaves me a little underwhelmed nowadays. Funny world innit? 🙂