Hi Snake65!
Do you manage accurate info related to any Admiral Kuznetsov modernization?, in some spanish forum, there was also this news regarding naval version of “Pantsir”, but I will take your word regarding the qualifications of the above mentioned reporter.
Did the Kulakov received a new BIUS?, or still keeping the old Lesorub-55?
Kulakov has Lesorub alright, slightly modified to account for Pozitiv and Gibka.
Boilers changed to KVG-3D like on Gorshkov, the faulty TV-12 turbine replaced, Granits abandoned – space may be used for weapon storage, abandoning the useless Mars-Passat, lengthening of the hangar space aft like on Varyag and rearrangement of hangar and deck parking space.
Cat and Palica (naval Pantsyr) – highly unlikely, just for trials, perhaps.
I can’t see the 2 small radars associated with the RASTRUB/METEL rockets.
Has the GIBKA taken the place they occupied?
How will they guide the RASTRUB/METEL frm now if their radars are gone?
Have a closer look at the picture on previous page, and try to concentrate on the ship, not on the lady in the foreground :p Grom antennae are still there. Gibka is placed on the platform meant for forward Kinzhal FCS.
Vice Admiral Kulakov after modernization. Note that the pennant number is not completed yet at the moment this photo was taken. It is now number 659.
http://radikal.ru/F/s002.radikal.ru/i200/1004/5d/14211295f57c.jpg.html
The interesting thing is the Positiv on the fock-mars. Allegedly it’s role is target acquisition for Gibka.
Kramnik is a day-dreamer. He has just made a compilation of all guesses made on Russian forums 😀
My image of the Udaloy class has lost a bit of shine today 🙁
No need of that;)
Kinzhal was just late for the first three of them
Well, even for 32 missiles, it would be nice to have 2 fire directing stations: a) for the sake of all round coverage and b) for the sake of coverage against multiple targets from multiple directions.
Anyway, what happened when to the bow 4×8 and why?
Neustrashimy and Jaroslav also have such combo and it’s supposed to be ok. Kulakov also has the AK-630 and Gibka, anyway.
Kulakov never had Kinzhal installed before, so answer to your last question is simple – nothing, it simply was never there:D
So it is a naval version of the VITYAZ ?
http://www.dtig.org/docs/MSAM-MRADS-Vityaz.pdf
By the way Snake65,
How many more Pr 20380 ships are under construction? Is there one being built in the far east?
Or Vityaz is the land based of Redut?;)
2 are in SPB and 1 in Komsomolsk, although the last one did not get much past the laying down section. She may be eventually scrapped. I expect the next hull to be laid down soon in SPB – the lengthened version.
Does this mean that this project Korvette-XXI-1 is unrealistic :confused:
It’s just a concept:rolleyes:
So this Corvette has the anti-ship firepower of the new Sergei Gorshkov frigate? :confused:
Don’t lose your time on Krylov Central Research Institute “vapourware”:D
How many missiles in those 12 cells? 12? or are they multi-packed?
12x9M96 or 48x9M100 or a mix.
Huh? So there then only remains a single Cross Sword / Podkat MR-360 on the Udaloy, for FC of 8×8 Khinzal? That’s insane?!
😮
No, only the aft Kinzhal is instalated, so it’s 4×8.
So Kashtan replaced by 12-cell VLS for Club. Up to 4 missiles in each cell right? So what SAM will be fitted? Will SAM be placed in container where Uran is on first ship? Is there space for VLS instead of Uran?
Are you not able to read my previous reply?
Kortik (aka Kashtan) replaced by 3×4 VLS Redut-K with 9M96 missile. Uran stays were it was. Mod is dubbed Pr.20382. Next mod will be 20385 (6th ship) – longer hull, Yakhont instead of Uran, Duet instead of AK-630M.
Most up-to-date image of Pr.885. Small details may be added/changed after official launch 7th May.
Copyright belongs to Diletant2010.
If installed, I would expect to see Ghibka both port and starboard on the bridge roof, just about over the 2nd bridge side-window (from the front).
Gibka is installed on the vacant platform for forward FCS for Kinzhal. Top-most version.
Rumor is that the 2nd Stereguschiy has “Redut-K” which is part of a 9M96 missile complex?? Would it have the 9M62E2 120KM missile?
Also, are the Stereguschiys getting Klub or the boring old Uran?
It’s not a rumour. The missile is 40km version. Pozitiv-M2 radar instead of Furke.