so $900m for total contract out of which $540m for contruction. by that price they can afford alot more of these.

C’mon, they don’t give the year when the money was allocated before 2007. The boat is on the slip for years and by 2005 already was at least 50% ready. So the total cost will be much higher, to say nothing of the costs of associated Bulava. Note, that complete construction cost of 20380 lead ship was rated at 5 billion roubles. Do You expect 18 kT nuclear sub to cost only three times as much as a 2 kT corvette?:diablo:

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http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99988&page=82

(note it is linked to in post 1228)
Have a look at the picture in post 1229… no it is not a photoshopped image… have seen line drawings showing internally mounted autoloaders for both barrels and it is reportedly based on a Naval artillery gun mount also in 152mm… the return of larger calibres at sea perhaps?

Technically that’s not true. The 9M96 missiles are also availale as a part of the S-300PMU-2 system.

The treaty doesn’t actually limit the range of missiles. It prevents nations from introducing technologies into countries that lack the ability to produce it for themselves.

Technically, 9M96 was developed as integral part of S-400 system, not as an upgrade for S-300. The delays in the development of S-400 caused the attempt to introduce them in S-300, thus S-300PMU-2 was demonstrated. It’s still an open question how many S-300PMU-2 have actually been deployed with 9M96, not just with system upgrade which allows to use that missile.
Regarding the treaty and the technology transfer regulations – It’s still quite heated debate on Russian forums about the actual range of missiles such as Onyx/Yakhont/Brahmos or Club family. 3M14 (Land attack Club) especially, as it’s a direct ancestor of Granat sub-launched cruise missile which ranged around 3000 km. Club is just a missile with only 300km range. Do You suppose that technology which allowed Granat to fly 3000km just vanished because a heavier WH and smaller fuel tank was fitted? Nevertheless, this is not considered a treaty violation. So, technically, we can talk about range limitation, not a technology transfer limitation.

I’m posting a picture for benefit of Brezhnev to outline what’s yhe difference between 9M96 family, which are actually S-400 family, not S-300, and the older missiles.
Austin, I’m not wanting to dinegrate Brahmos, it’s a newer missile than Onyx anyway, but it has the treaty limitation 0f 300km range, doesn’t it?
Some people in Russia are not overly happy wit the choice of 9M96 for 22380. Mind it, it’s going to be 40 km version (weight is 333 kg, compare it to even the latest version of Shtil), it’s limited for interception of targets up to 750 m/s. It was accepted instead of Naval Pantsyr, which has missiles capable to intercept targets at 1000 m/s. Still, introduction of 9M96 gives a true multichannel capacity, albeit the need of that on a corvette is discutable. 22350 is a different song, of course.

As I already posted, I don’t have a full line drawing. YET. So be patient.
What I can say for now is that the larger launcher is the 3S14 – domestic version of 3S14E export launcher for Club missiles. The domestic version allows to carry Onyx (Yakhont, Brahmos, you name it – MissMos will also sound nice for Missisippi-Moskva:diablo: ). And yes, there are 4 launchers, 4 cells each, meaning 16 missiles.
As for the SAM launcher, 22350 INITIALLY is announced with Shtil-1 (or rather Uragan) VLS, but the launcher in this drawing certainly is not a 3S90ME. There are only 8 cells for SAMs in this drawing, although there is plenty of room to install at least 4 or even 8 cells more. The launcher design for 9M96 is much more advanced and compact than for Shtil-1. What I try to convay is that first 22350 may have Shtil-1 in 24 single-missile cells, occupying approximately the same space as 8 four-missile cells of 9M96 on later ships. Mind – 9M96 right now is still being tested for the Navy, although cleared for land units.
As for installing larger units from S-300/400, I’m not sure that a 4500 ton frigate needs anything longer-legged than 120km 9M96.

I don’t have full pic yet. The launchers are for Onyx (the longer one) and 9M96 (the shorter).

This is as far universal as Russia is going to be:diablo: