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  • in reply to: Admiral Nakhimov (Sverdlov class). #2070021
    snake65
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    As You can see on the photo from 1961 at the time Nahimov was scrapped, her forward turrets are intact, so the drawing of course is not correct. The missile tested initially on Nahimov was KSS “Strela”, the same missile arming Tu-4 aircraft. According to Project 67 all gun turrets were to be replaced by 2 SM-58 launchers. Later there was a project to rebuild Nahimov to project 71 with front gun turrets saved and M-2 SAM in the aft. Project 70 was to replace all turrets with M-2 SAMs.

    in reply to: Admiral Nakhimov (Sverdlov class). #2070057
    snake65
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    Admiral Nakhimov:
    Admiral Nakhimov was completed to the standard design. In 1955 she was modified under Project 67EP for use in SSM tests. A twin arm launcher was added forward and 24 test launches were made in 1956. She was decommissioned on 29th August 1960 and scrapped at Sevastopol between 1961 and 1962.
    http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aj.cashmore/russia/cruisers/sverdlov/history.html

    Perhaps You can indicate the launcher You are talking about?

    in reply to: Neustrashimy's torbedo set& Mystic P-100 version of moskit?? #2071277
    snake65
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    Thank you Snake, I was kinda counting on you to find good answer:)

    But its rahter pity that there isent that sort of system onboard. It would have made the ships capacity to increase essentially…

    There’s Klub 3C14 land attack missile and of course there’s still 3M10 Granat sub-launched LACM;)

    snake65
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    I’ve seen P-100 associated with the 3M82 Moskit-M, 3M80 Moskit being the P-80.

    I’m sure, that You’ve never seen that in any Russian source:diablo:

    snake65
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    These are just universal tubes/launchers, which can launch both Vodopad/Veter and ordinary torpedoes.
    P-100 as a version of early Moskit is a fiction. There is only one version of Moskit existant – surface ship launched. Even the air version was eventually cancelled. It is possible that a sub or tube launched Moskit was proposed to counter tube launched Onyx and Kalibr, but such a design has never come off the drawing board. Moskit was to replace P-15 Termit and P-120 Malakhit in service, so somebody may have jumped to conclusions that there will be a sub version to replace Malakhit on Pr.670M (CharlieII) boats.
    Diamater of Moskit is 0.76m, Onyx has 0.7m, but it’s very tight-packed in the tube (0.71m).
    P-100 designation was assigned to Beriev design from 1961 of silos launched medium range land attack cruise missile with estimated range of up to 2500 km.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2071709
    snake65
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    Picture of Bryansk. Can someone tell me what this is? Red circle around…

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    It’s stairs and sidewalk.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2071936
    snake65
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    Welcome back picture for Wayne:diablo:

    in reply to: What is your best multi-purpose corvette design? #2073410
    snake65
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    I meant the force and MR Sengupta.

    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Project28.html

    In a news article from the Press Trust of India, dated 30 October 2005, Rear Admiral T S Ganeshan (Retd) – GRSE’s Chairman & Managing Director – said, “It is a 2500 ton corvette armed with stealth-mounted guns, the latest electronic warfare suite which, together with other key operational equipment and is shielded using stealth technology incorporated into the design of the bulwarks. The structure of the ship would be such that it would cut down noise drastically to prevent it from getting detected by enemy submarines. But it will be able to detect an enemy submarine from a distance and destroy it.”
    The 20380 is rated at 2000 tonne fiully loaded which makes it much smaller. I don’t have a lin but I remember admiral T S Ganesan had refuted that the P-28 was based on 20380. I am guessing now but it could easily be a smaller version of talwar itself.

    A link on how the 2500 tonne figure came about:
    http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=India+builds+first+warship&id=80706

    Don’t make a mistake, 20380 is the ship for Russian Navy, prototype for P-28 is the export version 20382. Depending on weapon suit it may be easily 2500 tons instead of quite lightely armed 20380.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076372
    snake65
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    To radar and Harry:
    Placement of RBUs on Russian ships depends not so much on their defensive or agressive role, available space also has to be counted, because of underdeck reload magazine. On Pr.61 (Kashin), Kresta 2, Kara – RBUs are both near the bridge and near aft, on smaller Pr. 1135 Krivak they are in front only. If you propose that just by putting RBUs in front makes the use of them rather agressive than defensive, than Krivak is more agressive Anti-sub ship than others. On the other hand, both 956 (Sovs) and 1155 (Udaloy) use RBUs only defensively, cause both have them near hangar. Even Kirov has RBUs both in front and aft. Russians do realize quite well the limitation of this weapon, 20380 will not have them, 22350 will have Paket-NK (most probably). The realization, that shoot-to-kill systems have to be used together with decoys, came rather slowly. Thus RPKTZ-1 (Udav) is more a decoy system and Liven RBU (purely offensive) was cancelled all togerher, AFAIK.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076459
    snake65
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    Surprise: SSSR projects, mini aircraft carriers ?!?!

    [HTML]http://paralay.narod.ru/atakr/asd-3111.jpg%5B/HTML]
    [HTML]http://paralay.narod.ru/atakr/kmpw2.jpg%5B/HTML]
    [HTML]http://paralay.narod.ru/atakr/kmpw3.jpg%5B/HTML]
    Source: [HTML]http://paralay.narod.ru/atakr.html%5B/HTML]

    These are 1980’s studies for a smaller (Asturias or Venetto sized) carrier with Ka-27 and Yak-141. First on is single hulled carrier dubbed “Merkury”, the other two are catamaran and trimaran version of carrier dubbed “Delfin”.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076861
    snake65
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    are those 76mm, 100mm and 130mm???

    Yes, exactly so. There’s also 57mm AU Patrul (based on A-220M). There’s even a new 152mm gun but I still don’t have a pic of that, allegedly it’s a vertical tandem system.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076867
    snake65
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    Interesting pics… Any idea what the missile attached to the sides of the third turret are? I am guessing it is a 130mm gun turret for use on heavier ships, so its range would be 20km+. This means a missile like Vikhr with a range of 10-12km would not make much sense. Perhaps it could be the 100km range version of the Hermes…

    Allegedly, they are Germes-K (naval version). I guess the up to 100 km range is the maximum ballistic range as there are problems to provide targeting data, because all three versions of Germes use the same Krasnopol-based targeting system. This means, that either you send a suicide team with laser designator to the shore or have a UAV with designator.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076935
    snake65
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    Something from this will surely show up on some Chinese or Indian warship also 😀

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076943
    snake65
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    Veerry possible configuration of AAD for 22350

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2076993
    snake65
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    This looks like a translation of the article in Commersant Daily, it got quite unhappy remarks on Russian forums. Nevertheless, it looks true, as Russian Navy direst need is new SSBN
    Regardings names, Roel, look at the names of Pr.956 😀

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