Finally a pic of the Pr.11990. 🙂

But does anyone know anything about Pr.1293 (or 12930?), which was also supposed to be a nuclear-powered carrier escort?

When the first 1144 (Kirov) was already on the slip an attempt was made to separate AA, ASu escort and surface strike functions once again, starting design of nuclear escort 11990 and nuclear strike cruiser 12930. The 12930 was a quite short lived afair, preferring conventional powered 1164 instead. Anchar had much longer life-span although on paper only.

[QUOTE=Wanshan]It’s an interesting design with nice lines reminiscent those of Udaloy. Correct me if wrong but does it have 2 Shtil launchers front AND 2 at the back (forward of helicopter hangars, next to rear stack)? How many Orekh total (8, 9, 12?)

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Yes, maximum number of channels for M-22 Uragan (export desihnation Shtil) is 12 and maximum number of launchers is 4 (96 missiles in total).

No way in 051C this is a steam turbined failure! I wish to be like your TsNII-1 project. Is the best choice for them. Much better and more economicaly to have a lot of eggs in a single basket.

If You put gas turbines in 051C, it’s a good interim solution until the Russian APAR is ready.

The image of russian “Spruance” that you post has any chance to be the future russian major surface vessel? The nuclear version of Granit “500kt” was strategic weapon? Withl onger range? The 500kt warhead was 2.5 times grater of the TLAM-N!!

Do you have any further information about the future russian DDG? Im convinced that will be much more different than UDALOYIII .

The “Multifunctional ship” is the CNII-1 project from beginning of 90’s, so it’s highly probable, that their current project goes along these lines. The Severnoye PKB project is more like Chinese 052C as the bureau was assisting China in designing this ship.
Granit was not considered a strategic weapon, even the nuclear tipped was short of 1000 km, the Russian term is “operation-tactic”.
Adm. Masorin was not very specific about the new DDG, the only number he mentioned was 8000 ton displacement.
Project 21956 was developed as upgraded UdaloyII but Russian Navy was not interested in the project (dire lack of funds I guess :diablo: ), so it was offered for export. The new DDG which is tentatively scheduled to be laid down in 2009 will be a different ship of course.

[QUOTE=BREZHNEV][[CENTER]I’ m building the “Admiral Nakhimov” in 1/200!! Using parts from Sovremmeny of trumpeter. What is the best technique for building the hull? “Bread and butter?” I saw in a magazine someone who builts MEKO360 in 1/100 only from plastic “pages” !!! The wood is very diffucultCENTER]

Does any one knows something about the “Fugas” project 1165?? http://vmk.vif2.ru/fleets/Russia/projects/Battleships.files/Russian_projects1.htm A real battlship!!!

Is it a chinese animation trick of a real project. If I scrued up again and if I didn’t manage to post the image again, go to http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/295465[/QUOTE
Information on 1165 is very scarce. In mid-70s it was merged with 1144 Orlan which was the first Soviet attempt to make a DDN. After the merger Granit missiles were introduced in 1144 instead of Malakhit and the displacement started to grow.
The 1157 CG is a totally fictionary ship, as the real Project 1157 was an intelligence gathering ship.

How about this one?

Picture above is a dummy Sandbox.

@ Rails:
Those were not only used for mines, also for heavy maintainance equipment.
As far as I understand, the Kievs had NO reloads for the P-500.
The rails on the Kievs were used for loading in harbor plus maintainance.

The thingy above is nothing even close to a Bazalt (Sandbox) missile. See pic for the real thing. As I said in a post earlier, three first Project 1143 had 8 missiles in launch containers and 8 reloads in a storage room below deck. Although Gorshkov, the fourth ship of Project 1143, or as Russians refer to her Project 1143.4, doesn’t have reloads trading them for 12 missiles in ready to launch containers, the loading equipment was still used for easier loading of missiles into containers.
Most of the rails on Soviet/Russian ships were used for moving around of torpedoes and other heavy equipment while replenishing at sea from ships like “Berezina” complex replenishment ship (Project 1883).

Kiev, Minsk and Novorossiysk had 8 Bazalt missiles in launchers and 8 more reloads. The missile storage room is No.14 on the diagram