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  • in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014644
    snake65
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    AFAIK, 9m100 is not specifically related to being a naval variant, but it being a vertical launch variant of the said missiles.

    Its VLS version id going to be used only in naval SAM Redut for now, therefore it can be considered as naval version.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014676
    snake65
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    There is a summary done already ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Part 1: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/285471.html
    Part 2: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/285799.html

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014695
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    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2014710
    snake65
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    Yes. He is asking to be evacuated from the damn Titanic.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014745
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    So what about 40N6? It is still develop or finish tests ?

    If the chief of PVO has announced it ready for production – so be it. If the army is willing to accept missile with unproven characteristics – who am I to object. As I said, the production rate is going to be meager for the time being anyway.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014755
    snake65
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    2011 report is surprisingly low on information on many system compared to 2010 system and also missed on data on 40N6 and other that was present in 2010 report but then it adds data on 9M96D and 9M100 that was not there before.

    You are wrong, Austin. 9M96D and 9M100 are mentioned in 2010 report as being manufactured, 9M96 is reported in land-based trials, in 2011 9M96D is reported in land-based trials and 9M100 is still in manufacturing stage. So there is a continuity. The same applies to tests of 3M14 (land attack Club). 40N6 is missing in 2011 which is not a good sign, keeping in mind that even initial trials of 9M331M and S-300B-4 have been mentioned.
    Regarding interviews of high-ranking military officials – inconsistency with real life is seriously alarming, if you keep a record of what they are saying. This has happened to introduction of any major weapon system in the last 20 years.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014777
    snake65
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    Thanks for the links

    Why do you think Ashurbeili would be less than honest with the trial report of 2010 ?

    What do you make out of the recent statement of Russian Defence Official to rian

    http://ria.ru/arms_news/20120628/687250921.html

    To me if you connect the dots from 2010 to 2011 , it seems that the state trials of 40N6 has been sucessfully completed and now it is going under production and perhaps some limited amount has been produced.

    Can you confirm of 40N6 has indeed 185 km Intercept altitude and 400 km + range

    I’m not asuming that Ashurbeili is dishonest, just having a bias how to present facts. Remember, he was expelled from the company, the interview was to show that everything was fine while he was at the helm of the company. There may have been 15 missiles produced, just not all of them used in launches, or it may have been a plan to produce 15 missile which was later reduced as with 2012 plan.
    Regarding the succesful completion of tests – I can’t see this success to be omitted from the 2011 report. Something was definitely not going as planned, I can’t see other reason why this topic wasn’t mentioned in the report at all. There is a funny coincidence that the announcements that 40N6 has passed the tests and is ready for production poped out in April and the 2011 report was adopted in May.
    As to the intecept data – so far I have information of a 350 km intercept, can’t say anything about the confirmed altitude. Insiders are talking that currently the missile system with proven longest range/altitude is S-300B-4.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014779
    snake65
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    2011 Report mentions this

    So 9M96D is a Naval Variant of 9M96E1 ,120Km range missile ?

    9M100 I suppose a naval variant of RVV-SD and RVV-MD ?

    polyment-Redoute looks like an X band AESA for Naval Applications

    Right on first two counts, but I’m not sure that Polyment is an X-band.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014787
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    Well under the circumstance the Report is the best bet for any official information , Now there could be other information but those are non-verified ones …it is possible that 40N6 might have faced unanticipated challeges in State Trials which was suppose to last a year and got delayed ….recent information from Russian Air Force official states that 40N6 is ready for production.

    The official Almaz report clearly states that 15 launches were carried against target may be all were not successful.

    Austin, the official 2010 report DOES NOT state the number of missiles, it only mentions that tests of 40N6 missile as part of 40R6 (S-400) missile system have been started in 2010 and should be finished in 2011. It is Ashurbeili in his interview who gives the number of missiles as 15.
    The official 2011 report doesn’t mention tests of 40N6 AT ALL, which can mean that something is going wrong, because it mentions succesful state acceptance tests of 9M317M (VLS Shtil) and even preliminary tests of 9M331M (Tor-M2) with 9M338K missile, which are far from being well and ready.
    The link to 2011 report is here:
    http://www.almaz-antey.ru/_files/13/1033/
    Link for 2010 report:
    http://www.almaz-antey.ru/_files/13/371/

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014807
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    Why are they funding so few of the new missiles; with such big S-400 deployment plans you would think it would be a priority.

    40N6 is the high-end of S-400, the numbers will be comparatively low anyway.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014820
    snake65
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    Austin, if you wish, I can give you direct links to A-A annual reports, but that will be in Russian ๐Ÿ˜‰

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014823
    snake65
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    Austin, with all due respect, you are quoting 2010 report, not 2011. In 2011 report 40N6 missile isn’t mentioned at all. With all due respect to Ashurbeili, the information in his interviews is far from exactly true. The actual 2010 report mentions only the fact that state acceptance trials of 40N6 have started and expected to finished in 2011. We know now that the trials were not finished in 2011.

    In 2009-2011 eight missiles were produced for live firing tests. Only one launch was considered succesful, missile exploding in the vicinity of the target at 350 km distance. The production of 40N6 missiles for 2012 was scaled down from 12 to 10 to 8, only 4 of them were regarded as test missiles the other 4 were regarded as pre-production. Many missile components haven’t been tested to full extent. Nevertheless, A-A is going to push the into production. For comparison, around 200 live firings were used during tests of S-200 system. Of course, it was then and now is now.

    Regarding 55R6M (S-500) the 2011 report says the following: Mock-ups and models of the main components has been carried out, documentation in preparation, some components being manufactured.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014830
    snake65
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    Almaz-Antei 2011 report states that 15 test were done with 40N6 missile , the reason for the delay in 40N6 is not due to missile but lack of available target.

    40N6 is cleared for production and will end by the end of year according the air force chief.

    Austin, you are definitely better than me in Russian, I wasn’t able to find a thing about 40N6 in the castrated net-version of 2011 report. Kindly, give me a link where exactly did you read about 15 tests of 40N6.

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2014867
    snake65
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    Detali?

    2016 is many years from now, and thats just the beginning of construction. By the time SAMs are fitted it could be 2017….

    3 years is a long time for you? I really do envy you.
    Even S-400 is not fully functional yet, 40N6 is still to be tested, only two missiles have atlast been produced for this purpose, instead of 10 initially planned. S-500 is mainly vapourware for next 10 years.
    Do not read Russian newspapers during breakfast (c)

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread #2015168
    snake65
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    http://vz.ru/news/2012/6/27/585631.html

    Izvestia claims from industry source that new destroyer will have S-500 – but the lead ship is likely to have S-400.

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